Psamathe wrote:I surprised myself this morning in that as somebody who was strongly supportive of staying in the EU I am now reconsidering.
The news that it looks likely that Turkey's membership application is to be speed through (so they will help Germany or rather Merkel with some action on migrant/refugee problems to save her political career).
And I would be strongly against turkey joining the EU given the way their government behaves (at least strongly against Turkey currently joining an EU the UK was a member of). I seem to recall (maybe incorrectly) that back in the days when Turkey's government was more "moderate" the EU still found it unacceptable, so how we can now be considering a far more oppressive government for membership ...
So you think an Independent UK is going to keep more distant from Turkey for moral reasons
No but I'm unconvinced that EU enlargement has worked well. Not that I have anything against the EU getting bigger, just that the politicians have not made a good job of setting the basis and when you have very different economies running under common rules things are less likely to work well.
My concerns are a along the same lines as I disapprove of the UK selling arms to Saudi Arabia. In practice I recognise that Saudi Arabia is going to get its arms from somewhere and still use them in the same manner. So bombs are still going to be dropped, people are still going to be killed either with UK supplied weapons or with weapons supplied from elsewhere - so why no allow UK industries to take the profits and keep people employed? However, to me it seems wrong and gives the impression that the UK is supporting the dropping of bombs and killing people.
Same with Turkey (or rather their government). when they government takes over the free press and behaves in an ever more oppressive manner and at the same time has its application for EU membership speed up because of electoral challenges to the Ms. Merkel it seems a poor way to make important decisions regarding the EU. And I'm questioning is the EU really does have a future when such long term and important decisions are influenced by short term political considerations over the interests of individuals.
I've not changed to now vote to leave, but have moved more to the "undecided" group.