What should Jeremy do?

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well he has just replied?

"Jeremy Corbyn has reiterated his suggestion that people left homeless by the Grenfell Tower fire could be housed in empty homes, saying the government has the means to seize property.

"Occupy it, compulsory purchase it, requisition it," the Labour leader told ITV's Peston on Sunday."

has got my vote if he generalises seizing property that is underused

Mr Corbyn has already called for the government to requisition homes. Speaking earlier in the week, he said: "It cannot be acceptable that in London you have luxury buildings and luxury flats kept as land banking for the future while the homeless and the poor look for somewhere to live."

:D

Dont think Tony Blair will be cheering though 8)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40319515
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Mrs May frightened off voters by daring to suggest that homeowners should sell their houses if the money from the sale was needed to pay for their care in old people's homes.

Mr Corbyn has hinted that he approves of the state requisitioning private property when it suits his ideology.

That's a huge vote loser given that most people in the UK own their own homes and want to pass their wealth down to their kids, and that applies to middle class pretend socialists as much as anyone else.

Socialism is like environmentalism.

Their adherents want everyone else to practise their faiths but they don't want to do so themselves.
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irc wrote:
belgiangoth wrote:
blackbike wrote:Corbyn as PM would probably make the UK like Venezuela, a country which embarked on a socialist experiment a few years ago and is now in a state of economic collapse with widespread poverty.

Many UK lefties held up Venezuela as the way forward just a few years ago, and a lot of them now also tell us that Corbyn is the way forward now.

Seeing as most of his ideas are mainstream mainland eu ideas I very much doubt that.


Mainstream EU where unemployment rates are around double that of the UK?

And what EU countries have embarked on massive nationalisation programs?


Unemployment rates In most northern European countries are below those in the UK.

What Corbyn is proposing to nationalise is already nationalised in many European countries. Some of it's nationalised here. Big chunks of our railways, water and electricity supplies are owned by their French or German state owned counterparts.
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blackbike wrote:Mr Corbyn has hinted that he approves of the state requisitioning private property when it suits his ideology.

That's a huge vote loser given that most people in the UK own their own homes and want to pass their wealth down to their kids, and that applies to middle class pretend socialists as much as anyone else.

Socialism is like environmentalism.

It is most often the poor who suffer from compulsory purchase. Not only do they lose their homes, but they struggle to find new ones.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2008/jun/02/olympics2012

It's only a vote loser when they do it to rich voters.
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blackbike wrote:Mrs May frightened off voters by daring to suggest that homeowners should sell their houses if the money from the sale was needed to pay for their care in old people's homes.

Mr Corbyn has hinted that he approves of the state requisitioning private property when it suits his ideology.

That's a huge vote loser given that most people in the UK own their own homes and want to pass their wealth down to their kids, and that applies to middle class pretend socialists as much as anyone else.

Socialism is like environmentalism.

Their adherents want everyone else to practise their faiths but they don't want to do so themselves.

Your statements become more incredible with each post :?
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reohn2 wrote:
blackbike wrote:Mrs May frightened off voters by daring to suggest that homeowners should sell their houses if the money from the sale was needed to pay for their care in old people's homes.

Mr Corbyn has hinted that he approves of the state requisitioning private property when it suits his ideology.

That's a huge vote loser given that most people in the UK own their own homes and want to pass their wealth down to their kids, and that applies to middle class pretend socialists as much as anyone else.

Socialism is like environmentalism.

Their adherents want everyone else to practise their faiths but they don't want to do so themselves.

Your statements become more incredible with each post :?

I think he is talking about human nature. He 100% right people are hypocrites. The difference is just how hypocritical they are. My brother is always going about global warming. I go round switching the lights of after him. He fills and boils a kettle when he is making a cup of tea. The immersion is on permanently. Am I describe the same people blackbike is describing?
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Boyd wrote:
reohn2 wrote:
blackbike wrote:Mrs May frightened off voters by daring to suggest that homeowners should sell their houses if the money from the sale was needed to pay for their care in old people's homes.

Mr Corbyn has hinted that he approves of the state requisitioning private property when it suits his ideology.

That's a huge vote loser given that most people in the UK own their own homes and want to pass their wealth down to their kids, and that applies to middle class pretend socialists as much as anyone else.

Socialism is like environmentalism.

Their adherents want everyone else to practise their faiths but they don't want to do so themselves.

Your statements become more incredible with each post :?


I think he is talking about human nature. He 100% right people are hypocrites. The difference is just how hypocritical they are. My brother is always going about global warming. I go round switching the lights of after him. He fills and boils a kettle when he is making a cup of tea. The immersion is on permanently. Am I describe the same people blackbike is describing?


As long as greed and stupidity are encouraged they'll blossom,it's unbridled capitalism and it's brother rampant consumerism, such as is being displayed and encouraged by the rich and stupid in the way the UK is being run by rich and stupid,that's encouraging greed and stupidity so rich and stupid people can become more rich and stupid.
One needs only look at the Grenfell disaster to understand what the rich and stupid have encouraged
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Yer still talking about yer brother :)
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Have I missed something? An inoffensive post to make what I thought a valid point has been removed??
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PH wrote:Have I missed something? An inoffensive post to make what I thought a valid point has been removed??

Nope you've missed nothing,the moderating has gone mad on this page .I quoted your post an add three smiley face signifying agreement with you.
I've also had three of my posts removed for mentioning that someone's talking crap on this thread(not you),it seems you can't call a spade a spade anymore on this forum :?
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reohn2 wrote:
PH wrote:Have I missed something? An inoffensive post to make what I thought a valid point has been removed??

Nope you've missed nothing,the moderating has gone mad on this page .I quoted your post an add three smiley face signifying agreement with you.
I've also had three of my posts removed for mentioning that someone's talking crap on this thread(not you),it seems you can't call a spade a spade anymore on this forum :?

I'm completely baffled :?
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Possibly because it's a cycling forum not a grumpy old men's political forum ....
All of us on here ... Over the age of 18 , have an amazing life ... Work, income, homes to live in, pensions, good education, healthcare, all because of the political system in place .... Socialist, Tory, Coalitions, Labour etc ...
The reason we are cycling is because of the tremendous wealth we each have ...
Those in poverty in the UK have shelter, benefits, food banks , schools, doctors, dentists hospitals etc..
Try explaining your poverty to a a family from Somalia or Syria ...
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Those in poverty in the UK have shelter, benefits, food banks , schools, doctors, dentists hospitals etc..


That is of course quite incorrect.
We have homelsess, those who have had their benefits sanctioned, food banks are only in certain places and need a "ticket", dentists for emergency work (ie extractions only) in many areas unless you go private.
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landsurfer wrote:Possibly because it's a cycling forum not a grumpy old men's political forum ....
All of us on here ... Over the age of 18 , have an amazing life ... Work, income, homes to live in, pensions, good education, healthcare, all because of the political system in place .... Socialist, Tory, Coalitions, Labour etc ...
The reason we are cycling is because of the tremendous wealth we each have ...
Those in poverty in the UK have shelter, benefits, food banks , schools, doctors, dentists hospitals etc..
Try explaining your poverty to a a family from Somalia or Syria ...


Do you think people don't know all that,and that its possible that a Labour led government could make life in the UK better for all not just the rich?
The forum is open,this part of that open forum is for other matters not always cycling related though can be,if you take a cursory glance at the titles of other threads in the Tea shop it'll become abundantly clear to you.
I don't mind a bit of thread drift myself but if you don't like the subject matter you needn't contribute.
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reohn2 wrote:
landsurfer wrote:Possibly because it's a cycling forum not a grumpy old men's political forum ....
All of us on here ... Over the age of 18 , have an amazing life ... Work, income, homes to live in, pensions, good education, healthcare, all because of the political system in place .... Socialist, Tory, Coalitions, Labour etc ...
The reason we are cycling is because of the tremendous wealth we each have ...
Those in poverty in the UK have shelter, benefits, food banks , schools, doctors, dentists hospitals etc..
Try explaining your poverty to a a family from Somalia or Syria ...


Do you think people don't know all that.
I don't mind a bit of thread drift myself but if you don't like the subject matter you needn't contribute.


Frankly no !
In conversation with friends and family Tuesday night in Truro this subject came up .....As Cornish they where making great noises about how poor Cornwall was, how little opportunity, poor medical facilities (true) ...... but this all by comparison .....

"What should Jeremy do? " ..... is the point .... it really doesn't matter what he wants to do the Civil Service will carry on with their quiet rule of the country ..... as they always do ... and have.

And my main point .... it does not seem to matter who is in power we all seem to do ok .... in real terms ...
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Be more Mike.
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