** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

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Re: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

Postby meic » 14 Nov 2018, 11:21pm

It does seem rather unfair that the portion of the UK that has caused the rest of us so much grief and cost so much, for so long, now benefits.

Deep down, to the Irish government, it is a part of Ireland not a part of the UK.
They never gave up on "Irish citizens" after the partition and still are not doing so.
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Re: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

Postby PDQ Mobile » 14 Nov 2018, 11:27pm

Of course and I have much sympathy with that view but the Loyalists want to "leave"!!

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Re: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

Postby al_yrpal » 15 Nov 2018, 12:14am

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Re: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

Postby pete75 » 15 Nov 2018, 1:41am

al_yrpal wrote:https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-45703809


I don't know why so much fuss is being made about the fishing industry. It's a very minor industry with little overall importance to the UK eceonomy. It's turnover is less than half that of Harrods.

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Postby mercalia » 15 Nov 2018, 6:48am

What a waste of time the last 2 years has been?
No wonder politics has such a bad reputation?

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Postby mjr » 15 Nov 2018, 8:23am

mercalia wrote:What a waste of time the last 2 years has been?
No wonder politics has such a bad reputation?

It's only a waste if we don't learn that this is what happens when youvote for liars promising clearly impossible things like having cake and eating it: once they win, the liars backpedal (Hannan, Farange), then many run away (Farange, Davis, Johnson...), leaving a few of them to wake up and cobble together the best possible deal while determinedly trying to avoid a vote that could change course, remove them from power and unblock the stalled prosecutions of their cronies.
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Postby 661-Pete » 15 Nov 2018, 8:39am

pete75 wrote:I don't know why so much fuss is being made about the fishing industry. It's a very minor industry with little overall importance to the UK eceonomy. It's turnover is less than half that of Harrods.
Maybe less important to the economy, but it matters a lot to us personally. Having adopted a pescetarian lifestyle, one step short of going full veggie, means that we eat quite a lot of fish - at least twice a week. We would not wish to see that supply diminish.

Having said that, I must admit that a lot of the fish and seafood we consume is farmed....

On the other hand, I have never visited Harrods. If they really have a gargantuan turnover, it's not down to us. :D
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Postby 661-Pete » 15 Nov 2018, 8:45am

mercalia wrote:What a waste of time the last 2 years has been?
No wonder politics has such a bad reputation?
If politicians have a bad reputation, so, I'm afraid, have "the people". It was, after all, "the people" who landed us in this unholy mess....

I'm reminded that the preamble to the United States constitution begins, famously, with the words "WE THE PEOPLE". Having made that statement and attained independence, those same "people" immediately pursued their foul practice of slavery for another three-quarters of a century. And not much improvement after that - Jim Crow laws and all - and look what's happening now! :evil:
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Postby Bonefishblues » 15 Nov 2018, 8:52am

Historians will still be picking the bones out of this for centuries to come.

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Postby mjr » 15 Nov 2018, 9:04am

Bonefishblues wrote:Historians will still be picking the bones out of this for centuries to come.

Maybe. May did at least clearly state yesterday that remaining is an option. If we do that somehow then this exotic sprism could yet become a footnote.
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Postby Bonefishblues » 15 Nov 2018, 9:14am

mjr wrote:
Bonefishblues wrote:Historians will still be picking the bones out of this for centuries to come.

Maybe. May did at least clearly state yesterday that remaining is an option. If we do that somehow then this exotic sprism could yet become a footnote.

Make that 'many centuries' if that happens!

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Re: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

Postby mercalia » 15 Nov 2018, 9:15am

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-46212838
So has anything been achieved? Seems like all has been postponed until a later date & trapped into an arrangement that only serves the EU?

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Re: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

Postby Bonefishblues » 15 Nov 2018, 9:15am

I wonder if Raab's departure is the start of the thread* unravelling?

*Not this one, for sure! :lol:

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Re: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

Postby mr bajokoses » 15 Nov 2018, 9:17am

Raab quits:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/nov/15/dominic-raab-quits-as-brexit-secretary-over-eu-withdrawal-deal

His resignation follows that of Shailesh Vara, Northern Ireland Secretary.

Donald Tusk this morning:
Since the very beginning, we have had no doubt that Brexit is a lose-lose situation, and that our negotiations are only about damage control.


The house of cards is beginning to fall.

Still celebrating, al_yrpal?

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Re: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

Postby reohn2 » 15 Nov 2018, 9:25am

mercalia wrote:What a waste of time the last 2 years has been?
No wonder politics has such a bad reputation?

The last two?
What about the last ten!
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