** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

[reohn2]

Cant see how the May delay will solve anything.Wondering what the plan is if there is one? What a palavar!

Al

Was there ever a plan?

[100%JR]

Cant see how the May delay will solve anything.Wondering what the plan is if there is one? What a palavar!
Al

Was there ever a plan?

Probably exactly what's happening now.Run down the clock,extension,extension,extension........sweep it under the carpet and carry on as if the Referendum never took place

[thirdcrank]

... I don't experience the Folkeregister as intrusive. It doesn't seem to be used in the way you describe. ... .

I'll see your Pangloss and raise you one Quisling.

[bovlomov]

Without a really intrusive ID system, I don't see how that would work.

I suppose it would work along the lines of May's 'hostile environment'. The onus would be on landlords, employers and others to enforce the law, and they would be the ones expected to check credentials. These unpaid agents of the state, living in constant fear of prosecution, overzealously apply the law, and even imagine laws that don't exist, leading to perfectly law-abiding folk being denied jobs, housing and healthcare.

I don't experience the Folkeregister as intrusive. It doesn't seem to be used in the way you describe.

Suppose for a moment that the Norwegian Folkeregister is a panacaea. Would the same scheme be implemented in the UK? The same security, the same technology, the same purpose?

We have a lot of experience of the Home Office and its projects. We understand its priorities, its ambitions, its limits, and its attitude to human suffering. I think we have a pretty good idea how a UK scheme would turn out.

[pete75]

Cant see how the May delay will solve anything. Wondering what the plan is if there is one? What a palavar!

Al

Maybe Mrs May is cleverer and much more Machiavellian than people think she is and her plan is actually one of avoiding Brexit altogether.

[reohn2]

Cant see how the May delay will solve anything.Wondering what the plan is if there is one? What a palavar!
Al

Was there ever a plan?

Probably exactly what's happening now.Run down the clock,extension,extension,extension........sweep it under the carpet and carry on as if the Referendum never took place

We live in hope

[Oldjohnw]

Someone mentioned how a particular MP voted. My MP, Anne-Marie Trevelyan (not the socialist side of the family) is a hard supporter of brexit but consistently voted against the deal which would have enabled us to leave.

Go figure!

[bovlomov]

Someone mentioned how a particular MP voted. My MP, Anne-Marie Trevelyan (not the socialist side of the family) is a hard supporter of brexit but consistently voted against the deal which would have enabled us to leave.

Go figure!

Perhaps she didn't agree with May's claim, that Brexit means Brexit.

[Psamathe]

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Perhaps she didn't agree with May's claim, that Brexit means Brexit.

I is surprising how narrow minded so many of our (mainly Brexit) MPs seem to be in that they can only "see" one form of Brexit (their ideological form). They cannot appreciate that the single Leave or Remain question can accommodate many different forms of Leaving (e.g. "Norway" path is leaving the EU in that we would no longer be a member of the EU).

Is it right that we have so many blinkered narrow minded people responsible for our legislation?

Ian

[mjr]

We have a lot of experience of the Home Office and its projects. We understand its priorities, its ambitions, its limits, and its attitude to human suffering. I think we have a pretty good idea how a UK scheme would turn out.

Yes. This government is unwilling or incompetent to design and use secure systems for personal data. Both the Settled Status application system and the Windrush Compensation Scheme have already breached data protection laws in their short lives so far. https://inews.co.uk/news/brexit/settled ... thout-bcc/

[mjr]

I'd like to see another referendum on whether we stay in the EU and revoke A50 or we accept a much better deal than Mother Theresa has so far been able to muster.

No. If we vote again, there must not be another unrealistic vague promise of rainbows and unicorns like "a much better deal than Mother Theresa has so far been able to muster" on the ballot paper.

[RickH]

One thing's for sure though,under the present state of government in the UK the rich will get richer,and the poor will get poorer,so stop blaming the EU and put the blame where it belongs,firmly on the heads of those sitting in Westminster.
If anyone thinks this governemnt cares for anyone but the those who fund their party they are deluded,are looking through tinted lenses,and should've gone to specsavers.

On BBC News website yesterday - Middle classes losing out to ultra-rich

As for Specsavers*...

(Specsavers driver crashes into Liverpool lamppost - BBC News 17/01/2018)

(*Declared interest - daughter & SiL own an independent optician)

[roubaixtuesday]

Maybe Mrs May is cleverer and much more Machiavellian than people think she is and her plan is actually one of avoiding Brexit altogether.

And I'm the Prince of Denmark.

[reohn2]

Maybe Mrs May is cleverer and much more Machiavellian than people think she is and her plan is actually one of avoiding Brexit altogether.

And I'm the Prince of Denmark.

Well I s'pose it's better than being the Dunce of Primark



I'll get me coat.....

[pete75]

Maybe Mrs May is cleverer and much more Machiavellian than people think she is and her plan is actually one of avoiding Brexit altogether.

And I'm the Prince of Denmark.

In the school play perhaps? I've been the Prince of Denmark in one.