pete75 wrote:pwa wrote:Oldjohnw wrote:
I don't think that there is anything undemocratic about the LibDems position.
If they get elected it will be by people who know their manifesto and then they have a huge mandate. Going from 18 members to nearly 300 to get in government would be a far more democratic indicator than a silly referendum which said nothing and was probably fraudulent.
But for decades they have criticised First Past the Post, which gives a parliamentary majority without having a majority of the votes, yet they will now seek to use that system to overturn a vote which did get more than half the votes. If that is not ironic I don't know what is.
Yes they have criticised it and would prefer a system of PR. We don't currently have that so they have to work with the present system as do all other parties. Are you suggesting that a LIbdem government elected under the present system would have no legitimacy because the party supports PR?
No I'm not. I am saying that of all the parties, the Lib Dems are the last party I would expect to overturn the result of a direct vote that got 52% with a mandate of probably less than 50% of the vote. To be consistent with their own previous commitment to democracy they would have to commit to another referendum to overturn the last referendum. In the unlikely but theoretically possible event that they won a General Election with 50%+ of the vote I would accept their mandate to revoke Article 50 without a referendum.