** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

[Lance Dopestrong]

I think it's time to either move abroad or retreat to our bunkers. Whatever happens, whichever party, any of the candidates, whoever becomes PM and we're going to suffer. May has been an appalling PM, but when we get what's coming we may look back rather fondly upon her reign of ineffective mediocrity.

[mercalia]

I think it's time to either move abroad or retreat to our bunkers. Whatever happens, whichever party, any of the candidates, whoever becomes PM and we're going to suffer. May has been an appalling PM, but when we get what's coming we may look back rather fondly upon her reign of ineffective mediocrity.

I dont agree with your assessment of Mrs May but agree whats to follow. Cameron with with his sidekick, Osborne was an appalling PM yes visiting on the poor and weak hardship. Yes the current 500 or so MPs who voted for Article 50 is an appalling Parliament - they are still there after she has gone, do you think any thing will change? her deal wasnt a bad Brexit deal but had the inevitable achilles heal of the backstop that breaks the GFA, but is there soley to protect the EUs dogmas of the single market. Mrs May has become a scapegoat for those 500 miserably incompetent MPs who are still there, including the clown Bojo, the traitorous Gove who stabbed BoJo inthe back, Sajid Javid who removed the uK nationality from Shamima Begum, leaving her child to die dumping responsibility on a country she has no practical connection with. These are just a few. Will anything change? I doubt it. They will still be there after May has gone ( I bet she mumbles good riddance to them all as she leaves no.10)


and these people say it all

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politi ... stion-time

[mjr]

Who's funding Farage? His €100k MEP salary isn't enough for his lavish elite lifestyle, apparently. Banks is the immediate paymaster, but where's he getting the cash?
https://www.channel4.com/news/nigel-far ... s-revealed

[horizon]

While we're on politics, does anyone know why MPs are called "colleagues"?

[661-Pete]

While we're on politics, does anyone know why MPs are called "colleagues"?

Seems to be a trend. In the supermarket, when they put out a tannoy call for staff, it's always "Colleague announcement", not "Staff announcement". And train passengers are always "customers" now rather than "passengers".

Is this yet another infection of our language from "across the pond"?

[mercalia]

Who's funding Farage? His €100k MEP salary isn't enough for his lavish elite lifestyle, apparently. Banks is the immediate paymaster, but where's he getting the cash?
https://www.channel4.com/news/nigel-far ... s-revealed

more

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... GTUK_email

During this period, as well as his MEP’s salary of nearly €9,000 a month, and an extra €30,000 a month declared in media appearances, Farage complained in an interview that he was “53, separated and skint” and that “there’s no money in politics”.

[Mick F]

I think it's time to either move abroad or retreat to our bunkers. Whatever happens, whichever party, any of the candidates, whoever becomes PM and we're going to suffer. May has been an appalling PM, but when we get what's coming we may look back rather fondly upon her reign of ineffective mediocrity.

I dont agree with your assessment of Mrs May but agree whats to follow. Cameron with with his sidekick, Osborne was an appalling PM yes visiting on the poor and weak hardship. Yes the current 500 or so MPs who voted for Article 50 is an appalling Parliament - they are still there after she has gone, do you think any thing will change? her deal wasnt a bad Brexit deal but had the inevitable achilles heal of the backstop that breaks the GFA, but is there soley to protect the EUs dogmas of the single market. Mrs May has become a scapegoat for those 500 miserably incompetent MPs who are still there, including the clown Bojo, the traitorous Gove who stabbed BoJo inthe back, Sajid Javid who removed the uK nationality from Shamima Begum, leaving her child to die dumping responsibility on a country she has no practical connection with. These are just a few. Will anything change? I doubt it. They will still be there after May has gone ( I bet she mumbles good riddance to them all as she leaves no.10)

Get rid of the lot of them.
Every single last one and disallow them ever to be elected as an MP again.

Shelve Brexit.
General Election asap.
It may not make anything any better, but they cannot be any worse than the shower we have in place now. They are an utter disgrace.
Revisit the Brexit issue at a later date.

[roubaixtuesday]

Who's funding Farage? His €100k MEP salary isn't enough for his lavish elite lifestyle, apparently. Banks is the immediate paymaster, but where's he getting the cash?
https://www.channel4.com/news/nigel-far ... s-revealed

more

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... GTUK_email

During this period, as well as his MEP’s salary of nearly €9,000 a month, and an extra €30,000 a month declared in media appearances, Farage complained in an interview that he was “53, separated and skint” and that “there’s no money in politics”.

Yet 30+% of people look set to be taken in by this obvious shyster.

[Mick F]

I would imagine that many of those 30% plus will be like me.
I'm not taken in by him at all, shyster or otherwise.

I'll be voting for any Brexit party, and his seems the one that I'll be going for.
As I've said many many times, I want us out of the EU asap before it's too late.

[roubaixtuesday]

I would imagine that many of those 30% plus will be like me.
I'm not taken in by him at all, shyster or otherwise.

I'll be voting for any Brexit party, and his seems the one that I'll be going for.
As I've said many many times, I want us out of the EU asap before it's too late.

If you're voting for his party, you've been taken in by him, whether you can admit it to yourself or not, if you can't see what your Brexit really involves when it's proponents are him and his bunch of misfit extremist candidates, funded by billionaire elitists.

They're what you're voting for.

[Psamathe]

Who's funding Farage? His €100k MEP salary isn't enough for his lavish elite lifestyle, apparently. Banks is the immediate paymaster, but where's he getting the cash?
https://www.channel4.com/news/nigel-far ... s-revealed

I saw the report in TV last night and he becomes rather an unpleasant person when asked about "inconvenient" things. All smiles, grins and a pint in hand as long as he is setting the agenda and controlling things but as soon as real questions get asked no more smiles and grins, no longer the slick salesman ...

Ian

[Mick F]

I would imagine that many of those 30% plus will be like me.
I'm not taken in by him at all, shyster or otherwise.

I'll be voting for any Brexit party, and his seems the one that I'll be going for.
As I've said many many times, I want us out of the EU asap before it's too late.

If you're voting for his party, you've been taken in by him, whether you can admit it to yourself or not, if you can't see what your Brexit really involves when it's proponents are him and his bunch of misfit extremist candidates, funded by billionaire elitists.

They're what you're voting for.

I'm voting for Brexit.
The more MEPs in there who want us out, the better.
When we leave, they become redundant.

As I keep saying, I want us to leave the EU asap, if not sooner.

PS
We don't have a telly, we buy no newspapers.
I cannot be "taken in" by anybody.

[Psamathe]

So when the EU gave us an extension until Oct they warned us not to waste the time. Then 1st thing Government & Parliament did was go on holiday for almost 2 weeks. Then launched into weeks of "long-shot" discussions. Now looks like we will be going into a Conservative Party leadership contest which will move us no closer to sorting out our EU membership just waste more time ...

And (as I understand it), each day we waste now is a day less of the "transition period" as the "transition period" is not a duration but has an already set end date - longer we mess around now, the shorter the "transition period".

Seems to me that since the EU gave us the extension the UK has done little other than waste time in he vain hope that somehow May will get her deal passed (after however many attempts). And plans for the future seem to be just waste more time whilst the Conservatives play their internal party games.

Height of irresponsibility.

Ian

[Mick F]

Height of irresponsibility.

Yes.
The height of irresponsibility.

Get them all out and give them the sack and elect a new lot.

[roubaixtuesday]

I would imagine that many of those 30% plus will be like me.
I'm not taken in by him at all, shyster or otherwise.

I'll be voting for any Brexit party, and his seems the one that I'll be going for.
As I've said many many times, I want us out of the EU asap before it's too late.

If you're voting for his party, you've been taken in by him, whether you can admit it to yourself or not, if you can't see what your Brexit really involves when it's proponents are him and his bunch of misfit extremist candidates, funded by billionaire elitists.

They're what you're voting for.

I'm voting for Brexit.
The more MEPs in there who want us out, the better.
When we leave, they become redundant.

As I keep saying, I want us to leave the EU asap, if not sooner.

PS
We don't have a telly, we buy no newspapers.
I cannot be "taken in" by anybody.

You're voting for a party led by an obvious shyster with extremists like Claire Fox in tow. A shyster whose previous incarnation resulted in prosecution for expenses fraud and an MEP being jailed for benefit fraud, just for starters.

They're in favour of a "no deal" Brexit which in reality will mean an endless and tortuous process of agreeing terms with the EU line by line over a barrel.

They'll be happiest if there is no Brexit so they can make a lot of self-regarding conspiratorial noise whilst contributing nothing and snaffling large salaries and expenses.

You've absolutely been taken in. So far you can't even being to glimpse it.