bovlomov wrote:661-Pete wrote: However I take exception to merc's using the words "lower class idiots".
Most people aren't idiots. There's a lot of bad education, but that cuts across all demographics.
well I think you are trading on the association of "education" with some thing being done to you by an educator? so if you receive a faulty education its not your fault?
Since the Crash of 2008 we have been BATHED in a sea stories or information that only a hermit would not have been exposed to without much personal assistance - about the welfare system being degraded by Osborne Economics, the faulty Universal Credit , individual stories of how it is failing ( I remember a story of a grown man turning up at one of the periodic meetings a few minutes late and being sanctioned and losing his money and breaking down into tears), food banks, bureaucratic incompetance of the DWP ( latest re EU nationals being illegally denied UC) The naivety of the Referendum with false claims or scare mongering, homelessness - being squeezed out of rented accomodation, Housing assocations being made to sell their properties under the Buy To Let scheme, parts of the country receiving grants from the EU to deal with the loss of the industrial base ( was it ) who never less vote for Brexit( ! ), The damage to EU scientific enterprises and grants and being frozen out of them, Policing and the access to criminal data as a result of being in the EU, The European arrest warrant. The ineptitude of Mrs May becoming a patsey for the EU agreeing a leave that undermines the UKs sovereignty ( the backstop) and attempts to steam roller it through parliament, Boris' claim we will leave the EU come what may with out an agreement, even screwing parliament to get it, The falling value of the pound, Companies claiming , they cant function in a no deal Brexit . Companies going bankrupt due to the uncertainties of the Brexit process with the loss of jobs. The cosying up to the USA with its mad president who claims to be our friend but really sees it as an opportunity to exploit our weakness as they have always done
Drip drip drip the stories mount up
You can add your own of stories you have heard or read that are related to the whats been happening since 2008 which paint the backcloth against which Brexit is happening
If you are not one of the well but just one of the just managing, you must have a very thick skull to not see the damage thats been happening and how you are unlikely to benefit from brexit. Of course if you are well off a home owner like a tory lady who was asked why she voted for Brexit said it would be a nice change, it dont matter if you are an ******* idiot.
if your trade has been affected by the EU like the fishing industry with its quotas and foreign fishing in our waters leaving the EU may seem a good idea ( I can remember when my home town was a major fishing port full of trawlers and drifters - I even worked over the summer for one of the companies on the docks buying the fish and made the mistake of filling in an invoice in red and the fisherman went ballistic as red was a bad omen - but now the port is empty, just a few long shore boats and servicing the oil platforms) But the industrial north? What has the EU done to them?
SO I think the claim of idiots still hold. The sign of Intelligence is a willingness to change your views. We have been immersed in so much unavoidable information now. If you looked at my last post I was only concerned with those Labour supporters who voted for Brexit causing so much trouble in the Labour Party, (mainly in the north - Wales also?). As for convincing them to change their mind, Good Luck on that, its become religeon.
