Mick F wrote:I wonder how many voters vote without thinking?
17,410,742 in the EU referendum.
Mick F wrote:I wonder how many voters vote without thinking?
meic wrote:How about making university education tuition-free? Other countries manage to do it.
Is there any difference other than the terminology?
In the UK you have student loan and pay back at say 2-7% of your earnings on top of 20% income tax.
Swedes have a lowest tax rate of 29%.
For a third thing, the Swedish tax rate includes national insurance, so it's not really reasonable to compare that to Btitish tax rates, which are solely income taxes, with the national insurance taken out separately.
Mick F wrote:Chatting to a friend yesterday and we got onto Brexit.
She voted to remain and I asked her why.
She said that she didn't really know and just thought it would be good to carry on like before. Status quo?
We had a good discussion after that, and within ten minutes, she agreed with me that we should be out and she'd voted without thinking.
I wonder how many voters vote without thinking?
We had a good discussion after that, and within ten minutes, she agreed with me that we should be out and she'd voted without thinking.
Mick F wrote:Chatting to a friend yesterday and we got onto Brexit.
She voted to remain and I asked her why.
She said that she didn't really know and just thought it would be good to carry on like before. Status quo?
We had a good discussion after that, and within ten minutes, she agreed with me that we should be out and she'd voted without thinking.
I wonder how many voters vote without thinking?
This way (out, new trade agreements with corporate USA), will be done sooner
And yes I know I over-simplify.
No, not at all!meic wrote:We had a good discussion after that, and within ten minutes, she agreed with me that we should be out and she'd voted without thinking.
Mick, You dont think there is any chance that she just said that as a quick, expedient way of moving the conversation on to something more entertaining? Or less controversial.
PDQ Mobile wrote:Without wanting to press you too hard, you stated up thread that your reason for wanting to leave was a " loss of sovereignty".
So I wondered if you brought any other argument to your discussion?
meic wrote:How much you value the status quo rather depends on where you fall on the hierarchy of benefiting from it. Which is an alternative answer to why leave voters were predominantly from the lower social economic classes contrasting the commonly given one that such people are less able to reach a sound conclusion.
The EU wasnt entirely a status quo though, was it? It was forever morphing into something else and there was a stated intention that it should morph into an ever closer Europe.
Leave was probably seen by its voters as being the more Conservative option retaining the nation status rather than morphing into the New European Order.