kwackers wrote:Fundamentally the problem with "leave" is it was never defined.
Ah - but "leave" was "defined". It was all written up in bold white letters on the side of a red single-deck bus.
Problem was, it was all lies......
And to some people, "leave" was defined as "get all those pesky forrinurs outta the country..." That ain't gonna happen, either....
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Bonefishblues wrote:1.14M now - my email finally came through
10.40 pm Thursday: It's just passed 2,000,000 and I think the media is taking it seriously. Remain has awoken, the lion has roared!
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Bonefishblues wrote:1.14M now - my email finally came through
10.40 pm Thursday: It's just passed 2,000,000 and I think the media is taking it seriously. Remain has awoken, the lion has roared!
Only some media. No mention on BBC TV news this evening.
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Bonefishblues wrote:1.14M now - my email finally came through
10.40 pm Thursday: It's just passed 2,000,000 and I think the media is taking it seriously. Remain has awoken, the lion has roared!
Only some media. No mention on BBC TV news this evening.
I noticed that. But I have also noticed how much the "oh-so-impartial" Beeb has been taking more and more of a pro-Brex**it stance in recent months. Look at those 'typical' citizens they sound out for vox pops up and down the country (I don't think they'll be doing vox pops in Brighton any time soon .... ).
On last check it's 2.138m. What is incredible is the number of people who've signed up today. I suppose there is a sense of urgency in all this, which wasn't there when the earlier petitions were launched.
Treeza - and your BBC lackeys - ignore this at your peril!
Suppose that this room is a lift. The support breaks and down we go with ever-increasing velocity. Let us pass the time by performing physical experiments... --- Arthur Eddington (creator of the Eddington Number).
That remain win? Yes that's possible. The playground jab was the last remark you made about leave supporters. You can't resist having a pop at us. If and when all this is over people will have to bridge the gaps and bring society back together. How about we start that now by not chucking flippant abuse around when it really isn't necessary? Let's be a bit more constructive.
After the referendum it was leave supporters who made we won you lost remarks. It's still going on. As a keen leaver I thought you might appreciate it what may happen being expressed like that. If, as seems likely, Brexit will cause a lot of problems Brexit supporters will deserve any and all abuse that comes their way.
May had been asking for an extension to article 50 until 30 June to make time for vital legislation to pass should she manage to get her deal through the Commons next week.
But her appeal “dismally” failed to offer any answers as to what she would do if the deal was blocked by MPs again, sources said, provoking EU leaders into taking matters into their own hands and in effect taking control of her future.
“She didn’t even give clarity if she is organising a vote,” said one aide to a leader. “Asked three times what she would do if she lost the vote, she couldn’t say. It was awful. Dreadful. Evasive even by her standards.”
When leaders asked May what she was going to do if her deal was voted down, an official added that the prime minister replied that she was following her plan A of getting it through. It was then that the EU decided that “she didn’t have a plan so they needed to come up with one for her”, the source added.
she called an election that wasnt needed; she activated Article 50 in the face of a divided country; she has refused to find a concensus in Parliament; she now blames Parliament for not doing as it is told and that it all its fault; she refuses to go.
what has she done right? some one tell me? she has brought shame on this country that will take a long time to repair?
Bonefishblues wrote:She looks a broken woman to me.
Leading a broken government(not)in charge of a broken government and a broken parliament,not to mention a broken country......
I dont agree with a broken parlaiment or country. May is just a fool who lacked the wit to avoid problems - sometimes we have to agree to disagree- her approach to things has no room for that, its her way or no way.
pwa wrote:That remain win? Yes that's possible. The playground jab was the last remark you made about leave supporters. You can't resist having a pop at us. If and when all this is over people will have to bridge the gaps and bring society back together. How about we start that now by not chucking flippant abuse around when it really isn't necessary? Let's be a bit more constructive.
After the referendum it was leave supporters who made we won you lost remarks. It's still going on. As a keen leaver I thought you might appreciate it what may happen being expressed like that. If, as seems likely, Brexit will cause a lot of problems Brexit supporters will deserve any and all abuse that comes their way.
Discussing this topic with you is pointless.
I guess it is if you can't face the truth.
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pete75 wrote:.... If, as seems likely, Brexit will cause a lot of problems Brexit supporters will deserve any and all abuse that comes their way.
The difficult comes in the lies that the electorate were told. Can you blame people for believing what their elected MPs were telling them?
Ian
They believed those lies because they wanted to believe them. The lies supported their own attitude towards leaving. The downsides of leaving were shouted loud and clear by the other side. Most Brexit supporters called them Project Fear. As for a leaver saying we must heal divisions it's not remainers who are calling MPs and judges traitors and making death threats to elected politicians.
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