** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

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Re: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

Postby Cunobelin » 23 Dec 2018, 9:46am

Oldjohnw wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/dec/23/police-probe-far-right-yellow-vest-group-anna-soubry?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other


Although originally posted in error, this incident raised some very interesting points about how Brexit is being hijacked and used by various right wing groups to support their causes

There wear claims and rumours at the start that there were elements of racism and "Nationalism" in the pro- Brexit camp, but these extremists are becoming more vocal

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Re: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

Postby NATURAL ANKLING » 23 Dec 2018, 11:09am

Hi,
mercalia wrote:
Canuk wrote:Tony Blair for leader of a unity government to sort this next agonising three months out!


wrong thread? should be in the Funniest clean joke I've heard recently thread?

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Can you tell me if the rest of the post from here Are just like this and I don’t need to read them, More hated than other any other p.m. by their own party, and that’s not a joke.
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Re: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

Postby 661-Pete » 23 Dec 2018, 11:13am

NATURAL ANKLING wrote:Hi,
mercalia wrote:wrong thread? should be in the Funniest clean joke I've heard recently thread?

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I thought the 'funniest clean joke' thread was meant to be a place for jokes. Correct me if I'm wrong here.

My own contributions to that thread may not be original, but at least they fit the thread title. Keep politics out of there please!
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Re: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

Postby 661-Pete » 23 Dec 2018, 11:15am

NATURAL ANKLING wrote:More hated than other any other p.m. by their own party, and that’s not a joke.
And Theresa is.....?

Don't recall any '48 letters' concerning Mr Blair.
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Re: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

Postby mjr » 23 Dec 2018, 12:18pm

661-Pete wrote:
NATURAL ANKLING wrote:More hated than other any other p.m. by their own party, and that’s not a joke.
And Theresa is.....?

Don't recall any '48 letters' concerning Mr Blair.

You wouldn't because Labour required an alternative candidate to be nominated (which never happened to Blair), not only a Conservative-style negative vote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/5177180.stm
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Re: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

Postby Oldjohnw » 23 Dec 2018, 12:34pm

Labour's system of leadership is different to that of the tories. He was, in the end, pressed to go.
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Re: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

Postby Cyril Haearn » 23 Dec 2018, 12:45pm

661-Pete wrote:
NATURAL ANKLING wrote:More hated than other any other p.m. by their own party, and that’s not a joke.
And Theresa is.....?

Don't recall any '48 letters' concerning Mr Blair.

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Re: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

Postby mr bajokoses » 23 Dec 2018, 3:10pm

Canuk wrote:At this late juncture (96 days to go) I really can't see Brexit happening. Either by hook or by crook, what's coming next is another general election or a referendum.


Here's the old fool Corbyn making sure a general election wouldn't settle anything...
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/dec/21/jeremy-corbyn-labour-policy-leaving-eu

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Re: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

Postby Cunobelin » 23 Dec 2018, 5:05pm

661-Pete wrote:
NATURAL ANKLING wrote:More hated than other any other p.m. by their own party, and that’s not a joke.
And Theresa is.....?

Don't recall any '48 letters' concerning Mr Blair.



Because He and Campbell would have called them something else and deny they had occurred

Of course a 69+ % in support being spun as more hated than any other PM would be typical of the Bliarite period... evidence that this is the case would be nice

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Re: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

Postby Debs » 23 Dec 2018, 5:08pm

mr bajokoses wrote:
Canuk wrote:At this late juncture (96 days to go) I really can't see Brexit happening. Either by hook or by crook, what's coming next is another general election or a referendum.


Here's the old fool Corbyn making sure a general election wouldn't settle anything...
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/dec/21/jeremy-corbyn-labour-policy-leaving-eu


As someone who habitually votes tactfully against the Tories,
i can confirm i definitely won't be voting Labour while that idiot Corbyn is the leader.

Chuka Umunna would make a superb Labour leader. Maybe he will be one day?

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Re: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

Postby Cyril Haearn » 23 Dec 2018, 5:21pm

Smartest thing for Chairperson May to do: call a GE, Laber wins, Jerry keeps his promise to leave the EU, Laber spends decades in the wilderness :?

The NPG, Natural Party of Government, takes over, leads the UK back into the EU :wink:

In 5-10 years we should be back to where we were before 2016
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Re: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

Postby Oldjohnw » 23 Dec 2018, 6:23pm

The 48 is not a magic number. It's a percentage of the total of Tory MPs
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Postby 661-Pete » 23 Dec 2018, 6:25pm

Cyril Haearn wrote:The NPG, Natural Party of Government, takes over, leads the UK back into the EU :wink:

In 5-10 years we should be back to where we were before 2016

That should be happening now, not in 5-10 years (or whatever).

We had a local Libdem activist ring our doorbell the other day. Mrs P told her, she's a signed-up member of the Greens (I'm not - I've not joined any politico party). Ms Libdem was quite nice about it - she said she's long been in contact with the local Green activist (whom we know) and they've agreed a no-competition pact - at least so far as Local elections are concerned. Whether this would translate to a GE, I wouldn't know.

Living as we do in leafy Sussex, SNP aren't really a factor - but they ought to be. Extend their domain south of the border. Why not? And then be part of the pact. I'm waiting!
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Re: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

Postby Cunobelin » 24 Dec 2018, 6:37am

Oldjohnw wrote:The 48 is not a magic number. It's a percentage of the total of Tory MPs


So is a majority of 83?

A few malcontents made a bid and lost... then showed their hypocrisy when claiming that over 60% in favour was not sufficient and she should still resign, yet 52% is an unequivocal mandate

This was an attempted political coup, not a confidence vote

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Re: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

Postby Cunobelin » 24 Dec 2018, 6:39am

661-Pete wrote:
Cyril Haearn wrote:The NPG, Natural Party of Government, takes over, leads the UK back into the EU :wink:

In 5-10 years we should be back to where we were before 2016

That should be happening now, not in 5-10 years (or whatever).

We had a local Libdem activist ring our doorbell the other day. Mrs P told her, she's a signed-up member of the Greens (I'm not - I've not joined any politico party). Ms Libdem was quite nice about it - she said she's long been in contact with the local Green activist (whom we know) and they've agreed a no-competition pact - at least so far as Local elections are concerned. Whether this would translate to a GE, I wouldn't know.

Living as we do in leafy Sussex, SNP aren't really a factor - but they ought to be. Extend their domain south of the border. Why not? And then be part of the pact. I'm waiting!


Must admit that I fail to see the correlation between General and Local elections.

Locally people are more likely to vote for an individual, than be Party based