georgew wrote: mercalia wrote:
kwackers wrote:How long did the GFA take? How many years of conflict before we tried the sensible approach to sort it out?
If you don't want a deal then simply create red lines that nobody will accept and insist on sticking to them.
From where I'm sat the EU is looking after itself - and it's doing a pretty good job of it.
We otoh can't even agree on what we want.
If the country collapses post brexit then I'd have no sympathy for it or us. We absolutely deserve it, and tbh I'm beginning to relish the thought.
yes exactly what they have doneI relish the thought of the EU having to break the GFA and impose a hard border that Eire have to police - its what Eire deserves - they should have known better.
The EU dont want a sensible approach
only one that satisfies their rules and <expletive deleted> the British, why the backstop is all wrong.
Words fail me......insanity rules.
A Peace agreement negotiated and agreed by the UK Government who now put this at risk by seeking to placate members of the Tory Party..... and you dare to suggest that this is the fault of the Irish Government. The little Englander attitude exemplified in your comments...." their rules"...you mean the ones agreed to by the UK Government when they joined the EU.
This is about blame
The Referendum was poorly thought out, based on a series of lies and misleading claims. Also about many people not knowing what they were voting for, or simply voting Brexit to "give Politicians a bloody noise"
We are now exactly were any one with a modicum of sanity knew we would be, and panic is setting in that we are now in a "bit of a pickle" and need scapegoats to blame, rather than admit our mistakes. Johnny Foreigner has always been a convenient visit in the past, so why not now?
So of course Eire is to blame for us unilaterally taking control of the UK borders (including the Irish Border) otherwise we would have to admit to the naivety and stupidity of this farce
This exemplifies it completely:
The EU dont want a sensible approach only one that satisfies their rules and <expletive deleted> the British,
Translated that means that the EU have actually had the audacity to act in their own interests (quelle surpris) and not roll over and accept the UK demands in their entirety
Any approach that is not complete surrender and acquiescence to the UK demands is going to be unacceptable, outrageous and a deliberate affront the the "will of the people"
I mean to say who would've thought two groups coming to a meeting would both have opinions or agendas and seek to gain concessions for the group they represent?