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Re: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

Posted: 15 Jun 2019, 7:25pm
by pete75
Mike Sales wrote:
pete75 wrote:Really? AT BGS we used to say it was for kids too thick for Bourne Secondary Modern :lol:
In reality though no kids were too thick for there.
Back then three little towns in a row Stamford looked down on Bourne and Bourne looked down on Spalding. I'd guess Spalding looked down on Wisbech.
I'm actually just about to go to Spalding.


I cannot remember us boys ever having any particular opinion about neighbouring schools (beyond those in the town).
Perhaps because in those days being driven to school was very rare. The school bus went to the appropriate, nearest.
The "school run" was unknown. Being driven to Bourne from Spalding for school would have struck us as very strange.
Perhaps you are rather younger than me.


We had kids coming from Cottesmore and Great Casterton to Bourne in the sixties as well as nearer places like Deeping, Rippingale, Aslackby etc. Usually came on buses though. Middle class children would go to school in Stamford and Oakham.
We tended to have opinions about other schools because we played games against many in neighbouring towns. Not all schools did this and from you've said presumably Spalding didn't.

Re: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

Posted: 15 Jun 2019, 8:05pm
by brynpoeth
Plus One, this is more entertaining than b****t :wink:

Re: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

Posted: 16 Jun 2019, 8:23pm
by NATURAL ANKLING
Hi,
Uarhhhhmph..............yawn.....I been asleep dreaming of rivers of gold.
Whatsat beer yum yum........... :( pity I cant drink the stuff, must be some ingredient that my stomach dislikes, so it plain old fizzy football louts lager :)

Re: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

Posted: 18 Jun 2019, 11:24am
by horizon
Has this latest YouGov poll been flagged up?

https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/ar ... y-destroye

I posted previously that the Conservative party had a new leader (Nigel Farage). I wasn't far wrong.

Re: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

Posted: 18 Jun 2019, 11:39am
by roubaixtuesday
horizon wrote:Has this latest YouGov poll been flagged up?

https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/ar ... y-destroye

I posted previously that the Conservative party had a new leader (Nigel Farage). I wasn't far wrong.


A truly shocking survey that shows how Brexit has become more of a religion or cult than a policy.

We *must* submit to it, regardless of consequence or harm caused.

Re: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

Posted: 18 Jun 2019, 12:19pm
by Mick F
roubaixtuesday wrote:A truly shocking survey
I don't think it's shocking in the slightest.
It's what I would have expected. The tory party have been pulling themselves apart for years. This is why Cameron called the referendum .......... to unite his party. He was shocked that it didn't. I wasn't at all.

Remember, when the results of the referendum were announced, many people were shocked.
I wasn't shocked. The result was as I expected. I'd have been shocked if the result was remain and I'd have been shocked if the YouGov poll said anything different to what it has.

Shocking to you and countless others, but not shocking to me and countless others either I'd wager.

Re: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

Posted: 18 Jun 2019, 12:22pm
by stu1102
'Party members are also willing to sacrifice another fundamental tenant of Conservative belief in order to bring about Brexit: unionism.* Asked whether they would rather avert Brexit if it would lead to Scotland or Northern Ireland breaking away from the UK, respectively 63% and 59% of party members would be willing to pay for Brexit with the breakup of the United Kingdom'

I can offer some support to the Conservative party members that wish this. There are those of us from Scotland that really have had enough and our family from the Borders that have always voted for retention of the Union, no more, this poll has for me and the majority of my family meant we will no longer support the Union and will vote accordingly

The country of Newton, Darwin, Hawkins, Haley, Fleming etc

Re: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

Posted: 18 Jun 2019, 12:24pm
by bovlomov
roubaixtuesday wrote:
horizon wrote:Has this latest YouGov poll been flagged up?

https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/ar ... y-destroye

I posted previously that the Conservative party had a new leader (Nigel Farage). I wasn't far wrong.


A truly shocking survey that shows how Brexit has become more of a religion or cult than a policy.

We *must* submit to it, regardless of consequence or harm caused.

I've asked before, why aren't officers from Special Branch smashing down the doors of these dangerous nutters? Do they really think a handful of anti-fracking protesters present more of a threat to the country - its stability, security and financial well-being - than the current Tory Party?

Re: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

Posted: 18 Jun 2019, 12:26pm
by NATURAL ANKLING
Hi,
reohn2 wrote:
NATURAL ANKLING wrote:Hi,
reohn2 wrote:Most of which have paid into it all their working lives as well a paying N.I.
You seem to begrudge people for looking after themselves,most of whom have in the past been due to good trade union negotiation on behave of their members.

State employed are unfunded!
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.specta ... nsion/amp/
Who will pay :!:
Taxation of the unborn.

That link requires me to log in or register which I'm not prepared to.

I just rechecked it does not! You just close that little pop up by clicking on the cross in top right. FYI only R2.
Its possible that on devices / computer versions of windows, the way its presented on screen my differ.
I am using win 7 and I see no problem and also on my mobile, your units might differ.

Re: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

Posted: 18 Jun 2019, 12:27pm
by PDQ Mobile
Mick F wrote:
roubaixtuesday wrote:A truly shocking survey
I don't think it's shocking in the slightest.
It's what I would have expected. The tory party have been pulling themselves apart for years. This is why Cameron called the referendum .......... to unite his party. He was shocked that it didn't. I wasn't at all.

Remember, when the results of the referendum were announced, many people were shocked.
I wasn't shocked. The result was as I expected. I'd have been shocked if the result was remain and I'd have been shocked if the YouGov poll said anything different to what it has.

Shocking to you and countless others, but not shocking to me and countless others either I'd wager.


I think Roubaix meant "shocking" in the sense that to see folk turning the EU into a hated enemy is shocking.
For little else makes sense.
And has little basis in any factual analysis.

The EU are the "others" in your book and you want nothing to do with them.
In my view it is shortsighted and closed minded in the extreme.

And there may well be seismic shocks around the corner that even you in secure pensioner paradise Cornwall will feel.

Re: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

Posted: 18 Jun 2019, 12:32pm
by mercalia
from the poll-
Approaching half (46%) of Conservative members would be happy to see Nigel Farage, a man who would otherwise be considered their most dangerous political foe, take over the reins of their party.

Thats a good reason that the one man-one vote notion should be replaced by a sanity test?
we live in interesting times.

Re: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

Posted: 18 Jun 2019, 12:34pm
by Mick F
PDQ Mobile wrote:The EU are the "others" in your book and you want nothing to do with them.
In my view it is shortsighted and closed minded in the extreme.
Where did you get that idea from?

I've said many many times on here that I'm happy with the EU, but not UK being in it. Work with it, be friendly with it, trade with it, travel to it, all fine by me.

Just not IN it.

Buy Hey! Would care if Brexit was reversed?
Not much.
I'd care that the result of the referendum wasn't upheld like we were promised. That would be a betrayal.

Re: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

Posted: 18 Jun 2019, 12:37pm
by bovlomov
mercalia wrote:from the poll-
Approaching half (46%) of Conservative members would be happy to see Nigel Farage, a man who would otherwise be considered their most dangerous political foe, take over the reins of their party.

we live in interesting times.

I wonder how much of this is due to the radicalisation of existing Tories and how much is due to entryism. I've read that, since the Brexit Party has no membership, the Conservative Party has no mechanism for excluding its supporters.

Re: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

Posted: 18 Jun 2019, 12:39pm
by mercalia
Mick F wrote:
PDQ Mobile wrote:The EU are the "others" in your book and you want nothing to do with them.
In my view it is shortsighted and closed minded in the extreme.
Where did you get that idea from?

I've said many many times on here that I'm happy with the EU, but not UK being in it. Work with it, be friendly with it, trade with it, travel to it, all fine by me.

Just not IN it.

Buy Hey! Would care if Brexit was reversed?
Not much.
I'd care that the result of the referendum wasn't upheld like we were promised. That would be a betrayal.


I am a bit vague about what was promised. Parliament and the govt have certainly respected the referendum result even if it never happens as there is no consenus how to deliver it? They have tried very hard to find a workable soln? but failed

Re: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

Posted: 18 Jun 2019, 12:40pm
by NATURAL ANKLING
Hi,
Mick F wrote:
roubaixtuesday wrote:A truly shocking survey
I don't think it's shocking in the slightest.
It's what I would have expected. The tory party have been pulling themselves apart for years. This is why Cameron called the referendum .......... to unite his party. He was shocked that it didn't. I wasn't at all.

Remember, when the results of the referendum were announced, many people were shocked.
I wasn't shocked. The result was as I expected. I'd have been shocked if the result was remain and I'd have been shocked if the YouGov poll said anything different to what it has.

Shocking to you and countless others, but not shocking to me and countless others either I'd wager.

I was surprised...pleasantly.
But polls are still even now presented as facts