** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

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Re: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

Postby Psamathe » 17 Oct 2019, 3:03pm

Bonefishblues wrote:Christ, it was Juncker :shock:

It's not his decision. In fact he does not even get a vote on the matter.

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Re: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

Postby Bonefishblues » 17 Oct 2019, 3:06pm

It's a measure of the mistrust abroad I think. Constitutional lawyers will be working overtime. Good news is that Kier Starmer is held to be one of the brightest of his generation, albeit not a constitutional specialist.

Saturday is going to be riveting.

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Re: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

Postby roubaixtuesday » 17 Oct 2019, 3:30pm

Bonefishblues wrote:
Saturday is going to be riveting.


Good day to go cycling I think

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Re: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

Postby Debs » 17 Oct 2019, 3:30pm

So it's back to that old fascist blackmail trick of vote for this bar steward deal or you'll get no-deal which is even worse.
Either way they take back control of Britains borders and the British peoples who will get thoroughly rodgered over a barrel.

Looks a really good venture for the barrel industry.

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Re: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

Postby Bonefishblues » 17 Oct 2019, 3:34pm

And to be called Roger. Lots of work.

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Re: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

Postby mjr » 17 Oct 2019, 3:47pm

roubaixtuesday wrote:
Bonefishblues wrote:
Saturday is going to be riveting.


Good day to go cycling I think

Could I suggest from Park Lane to Parliament Square? Might be a bit busy, though.
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Re: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

Postby Bonefishblues » 17 Oct 2019, 3:48pm

It's going to be an absolute bear garden isn't it.

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Re: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

Postby mjr » 17 Oct 2019, 4:00pm

Mick F wrote:
661-Pete wrote:....you should still have been aware of the utter chaos that would have ensued from any Brexit vote. You - and others like you - should have been more pragmatic, more of "the devil we know" way of thinking.

Then we wouldn't have been in this mess...
We wouldn't have been in this mess if we'd just stayed in the Common Market and not joined the Union of Europe.

No objection whatsoever about co-operation and simple trade, even free-ish movement of people up to a limit.

We didn't join it. The UK co-created the European Union because Thatcher (among others both UK and elsewhere) was unhappy with how the Common Market worked! To have persevered with the common market may well have resulted in some sort of federation with no opt-outs to resolve what was then called "eurosclerosis" and I can only imagine how much you would have liked that.

But I keep pointing this out and still people keep on as if the common market could have continued. It couldn't. It was dead on its feet. It had to be reformed into the single market. If anything, you should rejoice that it was reformed partly in the UK Union's image, largely by Lord Cockfield.
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Re: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

Postby Mick F » 17 Oct 2019, 4:21pm

Ok.
Thanks for that.

I still want out though.
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Re: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

Postby 661-Pete » 17 Oct 2019, 5:46pm

Mick F wrote:Ok.
Thanks for that.

I still want out though.
OK, be out then. Just don't take us with you.
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Re: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

Postby merseymouth » 17 Oct 2019, 6:42pm

Hi MickF, I'm in the vanguard with you mate :D :D :D .
For me the mission is to step of the E.U. Gravy Train, bring it on! TTFN MM

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Re: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

Postby Spinners » 17 Oct 2019, 6:53pm

Anyone else fed-up with those MP's moaning today that the agreed Brexit deal is worse than May's deal? You know, the one they didn't vote for :roll:
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Re: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

Postby reohn2 » 17 Oct 2019, 6:59pm

Bonefishblues wrote:And to be called Roger. Lots of work.

Roger that! :shock:
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Re: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

Postby Sweep » 17 Oct 2019, 7:01pm

roubaixtuesday wrote:
Mick F wrote:
661-Pete wrote:....you should still have been aware of the utter chaos that would have ensued from any Brexit vote. You - and others like you - should have been more pragmatic, more of "the devil we know" way of thinking.

Then we wouldn't have been in this mess...
We wouldn't have been in this mess if we'd just stayed in the Common Market and not joined the Union of Europe.

No objection whatsoever about co-operation and simple trade, even free-ish movement of people up to a limit.


Politics based on xenophobia and nationalism always ends in a mess.

Are you accusing MickF of xenophobia?
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Re: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

Postby kwackers » 17 Oct 2019, 7:20pm

Spinners wrote:Anyone else fed-up with those MP's moaning today that the agreed Brexit deal is worse than May's deal? You know, the one they didn't vote for :roll:

Why do you think it's an either / or vote?

They can vote in favour of both or for neither.