** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

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Re: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

Postby Stradageek » 21 Oct 2019, 1:07pm

Can someone please enlighten me on what it is the DUP want?

As far as I can tell they seem to want a 'hard Brexit' i.e. leaving the customs union AND no hard border with Eire - which seems impossible, or did I miss something obvious?

Coming to you guys because I can't seem to find a clear answer anywhere

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Re: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

Postby horizon » 21 Oct 2019, 1:09pm

mercalia wrote: The way Brexit-mongers have behaved shows the depravity that people can sink to?


I was agreeing with you up to this point. :evil:
Let's just get Brexit done so that we can get on with the important job of re-joining the EU!

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Re: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

Postby mjr » 21 Oct 2019, 1:15pm

mercalia wrote:What I fail to understand is the argument that a new referendum would be anti-democratic that it amount to the elitest govt telling the people "you got it wrong, so vote again now and get it right". Does any one really believe that utter piffle that doesnt convince a 10 year old let alone an adult? [...]

I agree. If nothing else, you can get pretty strong evidence against that by simply looking at which side the elitist Old Etonians in government are supporting, or which side puts more people on the streets and gets more millions petitioning government (both copyright images reproduced here for commentary):
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Re: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

Postby Audax67 » 21 Oct 2019, 1:31pm

Stradageek wrote:Can someone please enlighten me on what it is the DUP want?

As far as I can tell they seem to want a 'hard Brexit' i.e. leaving the customs union AND no hard border with Eire - which seems impossible, or did I miss something obvious?

Coming to you guys because I can't seem to find a clear answer anywhere


The DUP might tell you but I doubt if it would be coherent. They make me think of the end of Poe's story, The Masque of the Red Death:

And the life of the ebony clock went out with
that of the last of the gay. And the flames of the
tripods expired. And Darkness and Decay and the
Red Death held illimitable dominion over all.


Except that for Red Death you substitute right-wing Orange evangelism.
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Re: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

Postby Oldjohnw » 21 Oct 2019, 1:48pm

Stradageek wrote:Can someone please enlighten me on what it is the DUP want?

As far as I can tell they seem to want a 'hard Brexit' i.e. leaving the customs union AND no hard border with Eire - which seems impossible, or did I miss something obvious?

Coming to you guys because I can't seem to find a clear answer anywhere


If you should ever find out I expect the DUP will be interested. I'm pretty sure that they don't know.
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Postby 661-Pete » 21 Oct 2019, 1:55pm

mjr wrote:...or which side puts more people on the streets and gets more millions petitioning government (both copyright images reproduced here for commentary):
Hmmm.... I'll say this for the Leavers, they sure had plenty more elbow-room than us Remainers, on the march! In Parliament Square, the crush was so great that we could hardly breathe - let alone force our way through to a less crowded part of the Square (a friendly policeman tried to advise us, as we were both feeling the strain - but the way he pointed merely led us into the thickest part of the crowd...)

Perhaps I should join the Brexit*eers march, next time? :shock: At least it would be a bit more comfortable. Might even bring a cat to swing... :lol:

BTW - it wasn't all Remainers on our march. I definitely passed one guy brandishing what looked like a Leave poster, in Traf. Sq. He seemed to be exchanging cheery greetings with the rest of us as we walked past, but he looked a bit lonesome. At least he wasn't getting any abuse....
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Postby mjr » 21 Oct 2019, 2:19pm

661-Pete wrote:BTW - it wasn't all Remainers on our march. I definitely passed one guy brandishing what looked like a Leave poster, in Traf. Sq. He seemed to be exchanging cheery greetings with the rest of us as we walked past, but he looked a bit lonesome. At least he wasn't getting any abuse....

We saw a couple of those, including the Brexit-is-God's-Will guy on Piccadilly again, plus one small group on Whitehall were shouting Leave slogans, but when they started shoving marchers, some officers of the Met invited them to leave (I'm not sure how forcefully).

Did you see any witty slogans? I particularly liked ones saying something like "Boris's deal is just lipstick on a pig (Don't tell David Cameron)" and "I blame those Keep Calm and Carry On tea towels. It was a trap all along!"
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Re: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

Postby Psamathe » 21 Oct 2019, 2:35pm

I assume Piffle will be ignoring the Open Letter for a 2nd Confirmatory Vote https://www.peoples-vote.uk/letter.

But I do winder if larger numbers might help say those MPs wavering which might swing the balance to get such an amendment passed. Maybe this is a bit different as it is not something the Government can just ignore as it's not only going to affect them i.e. the Government don't have to decide to debate or follow a policy but other parties have to decide to add an amendment and MPs have to vote for it and they might be more receptive to public opinion expressed through such means (more receptive that Piffle and his band of Brexit fanatics).

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Re: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

Postby 661-Pete » 21 Oct 2019, 2:51pm

mjr wrote:
661-Pete wrote:BTW - it wasn't all Remainers on our march. I definitely passed one guy brandishing what looked like a Leave poster, in Traf. Sq. He seemed to be exchanging cheery greetings with the rest of us as we walked past, but he looked a bit lonesome. At least he wasn't getting any abuse....

We saw a couple of those, including the Brexit-is-God's-Will guy on Piccadilly again, plus one small group on Whitehall were shouting Leave slogans, but when they started shoving marchers, some officers of the Met invited them to leave (I'm not sure how forcefully).
Our guy had what seemed to be a Brex*it St George slaying the EU dragon. Or was it the other way around? Mrs P didn't take a piccy, sorry.

There was also a group of guys in a pub, knocking back Stellas and yelling "Bye Bye EU!" or something like that. I did point out to them that they were drinking Belgian beer....

So many slogans - sorry can't remember any in particular.
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Postby pete75 » 21 Oct 2019, 2:59pm

661-Pete wrote:
There was also a group of guys in a pub, knocking back Stellas and yelling "Bye Bye EU!" or something like that. I did point out to them that they were drinking Belgian beer....



Doubtful. It would almost certainly have been the UK brewed imitation Stella commonly known as wifebeater.

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Re: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

Postby Debs » 21 Oct 2019, 3:27pm

pete75 wrote:
661-Pete wrote:
There was also a group of guys in a pub, knocking back Stellas and yelling "Bye Bye EU!" or something like that. I did point out to them that they were drinking Belgian beer....



Doubtful. It would almost certainly have been the UK brewed imitation Stella commonly known as wifebeater.


So the genuine Belgian brewed Stella Artois beer, long remembered for being far more refreshing and classer than most larger-beers; has sadly become replaced by UK's estranged urinal coloured belch fluid version. But is this really just another analogy of Brexit?

We should be told.

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Re: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

Postby 661-Pete » 21 Oct 2019, 4:25pm

pete75 wrote:
661-Pete wrote:
There was also a group of guys in a pub, knocking back Stellas and yelling "Bye Bye EU!" or something like that. I did point out to them that they were drinking Belgian beer....



Doubtful. It would almost certainly have been the UK brewed imitation Stella commonly known as wifebeater.
OK OK. But the pub guys wouldn't have known that - or wouldn't have cared if they did.
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Re: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

Postby pete75 » 21 Oct 2019, 4:35pm

Stradageek wrote:Can someone please enlighten me on what it is the DUP want?



I could tell you but the rude word filter won't allow it.

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Re: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

Postby pete75 » 21 Oct 2019, 4:41pm

661-Pete wrote:
pete75 wrote:
661-Pete wrote:
There was also a group of guys in a pub, knocking back Stellas and yelling "Bye Bye EU!" or something like that. I did point out to them that they were drinking Belgian beer....



Doubtful. It would almost certainly have been the UK brewed imitation Stella commonly known as wifebeater.
OK OK. But the pub guys wouldn't have known that - or wouldn't have cared if they did.


As Brexiters they will be pleased it's manufactured here.

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Re: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

Postby NUKe » 21 Oct 2019, 4:54pm

to all the Brexiters (remainers need not reply, we don't want your negativity)

What are you most looking forward to when we leave?

What laws do you want to see made or abolished in this brave new world?
NUKe
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