** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

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Re: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

Postby merseymouth » 21 Dec 2018, 5:45pm

Hello folk, I found an article by Ambrose Evans-Pritchard in daily Telegraph Thursday 20th December quite interesting.
"It's time to break free as Germany fears a no-deal cost".
May I post one possibility for taking back control here after the split.
Way back when I was a Boy Sprout I undertook my fireman badge. Part of that was the ready identification of fire extinguishers for the appropriate sort of fire. All different colours, but instantly recognized by most people.
Cream - Foam, Black - Carbon Dioxide, Red - Water et al. But come harmonization regulations all extinguishers have to be a uniform colour.
Now to ensure that I get the correct type I have to read the labels!
That alone leads me towards the out door.
Have we got to a safe number yet? TTFN MM

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Re: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

Postby mjr » 21 Dec 2018, 6:10pm

merseymouth wrote:Part of that was the ready identification of fire extinguishers for the appropriate sort of fire. All different colours, but instantly recognized by most people.
Cream - Foam, Black - Carbon Dioxide, Red - Water et al. But come harmonization regulations all extinguishers have to be a uniform colour.
Now to ensure that I get the correct type I have to read the labels!
That alone leads me towards the out door.
Have we got to a safe number yet? TTFN MM

Safe number of what?

Is stopping the stupid ablist colour-coding of fire extinguishers and requiring clear labelling an EU thing, then? If so, as someone with different colour perception, as well as a sometimes drug-limited memory, that's a +1 for the EU then!
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Re: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

Postby Canuk » 21 Dec 2018, 6:13pm

mjr wrote:
merseymouth wrote:Part of that was the ready identification of fire extinguishers for the appropriate sort of fire. All different colours, but instantly recognized by most people.
Cream - Foam, Black - Carbon Dioxide, Red - Water et al. But come harmonization regulations all extinguishers have to be a uniform colour.
Now to ensure that I get the correct type I have to read the labels!
That alone leads me towards the out door.
Have we got to a safe number yet? TTFN MM

Safe number of what?

Is stopping the stupid ablist colour-coding of fire extinguishers and requiring clear labelling an EU thing, then? If so, as someone with different colour perception, as well as a sometimes drug-limited memory, that's a +1 for the EU then!


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Re: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

Postby Cunobelin » 21 Dec 2018, 6:35pm

RickH wrote:
Mick F wrote:
Cunobelin wrote:Have you sorted your driving license?
From March 29 you cannot drive in Europe on the UK Licence..... you need an international one
Not quite true.
You can drive on a UK licence in all(?) countries of the world, and could do so in Europe before the EU was formed.

No doubt there are/were restrictions regarding time there. Just visiting or on holiday is/was fine.

the AA wrote: You don’t need an IDP in every country – it’s recommended or required in around 140, including the USA.(link)


This page lists the countries where one is required.



ABTA is advising differently for those driving abroad....

As long as you have a full UK driving licence, you don’t currently need an additional licence to drive in the EU. This is likely to change in a no-deal scenario. UK travellers looking to drive in the EU on or after 29 March 2019 may need to apply for the relevant International Driving Permit.

These cost £5.50 and are available directly from the AA, the RAC or the Post Office. The Government is working to extend the network of Post Offices where you can apply for an International Driving Permit, and has plans to roll these out in more branches across the UK from 1 February 2019.

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Re: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

Postby pete75 » 21 Dec 2018, 6:56pm

mjr wrote:
merseymouth wrote:Part of that was the ready identification of fire extinguishers for the appropriate sort of fire. All different colours, but instantly recognized by most people.
Cream - Foam, Black - Carbon Dioxide, Red - Water et al. But come harmonization regulations all extinguishers have to be a uniform colour.
Now to ensure that I get the correct type I have to read the labels!
That alone leads me towards the out door.
Have we got to a safe number yet? TTFN MM

Safe number of what?

Is stopping the stupid ablist colour-coding of fire extinguishers and requiring clear labelling an EU thing, then? If so, as someone with different colour perception, as well as a sometimes drug-limited memory, that's a +1 for the EU then!


The different colouring for different type of extinguisher was very useful. When I worked as a fridge engineer we had several different types and when needed you had to grab one quickly not mess about reading a label. It certainly wasn't stupid to have them in different colours. Amongst the production workers in the factory it was ideal too. Far more likely to find one who couldn't read the labels rather than distinguish between colour.
If, as appears, Brexiters are claiming the changing of fire extinguisher colours as a benefit of leaving the EU it really highlights the weakness of their case.

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Re: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

Postby merseymouth » 21 Dec 2018, 7:19pm

Hi, I was asked for a reason of how the E.U. controls us. I give an instance then I get ridiculed for not providing a manifesto sized file!
I ask you a question - How as the E.U. enhanced my life? MM

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Re: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

Postby reohn2 » 21 Dec 2018, 7:24pm

merseymouth wrote:Hi, I was asked for a reason of how the E.U. controls us. I give an instance then I get ridiculed for not providing a manifesto sized file!
I ask you a question - How as the E.U. enhanced my life? MM

A really convincing argument you have there,it's totally changed my outlook on how the EU has totally dominated the UK :roll:
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Re: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

Postby Phileas » 21 Dec 2018, 7:50pm

As far as I can tell from a quick bit of googling, fire extinguishers can still be colour coded with a coloured band and (not surprisingly) there is a justifiable reason for making them all post box red.

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Re: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

Postby Cyril Haearn » 21 Dec 2018, 7:52pm

pete75 wrote:
mjr wrote:
merseymouth wrote:Part of that was the ready identification of fire extinguishers for the appropriate sort of fire. All different colours, but instantly recognized by most people.
Cream - Foam, Black - Carbon Dioxide, Red - Water et al. But come harmonization regulations all extinguishers have to be a uniform colour.
Now to ensure that I get the correct type I have to read the labels!
That alone leads me towards the out door.
Have we got to a safe number yet? TTFN MM

Safe number of what?

Is stopping the stupid ablist colour-coding of fire extinguishers and requiring clear labelling an EU thing, then? If so, as someone with different colour perception, as well as a sometimes drug-limited memory, that's a +1 for the EU then!


The different colouring for different type of extinguisher was very useful. When I worked as a fridge engineer we had several different types and when needed you had to grab one quickly not mess about reading a label. It certainly wasn't stupid to have them in different colours. Amongst the production workers in the factory it was ideal too. Far more likely to find one who couldn't read the labels rather than distinguish between colour.
If, as appears, Brexiters are claiming the changing of fire extinguisher colours as a benefit of leaving the EU it really highlights the weakness of their case.

In bad light or smoke one might not be able to identify them
Best to have great big simple text in black/white/fluorescent
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Re: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

Postby pete75 » 21 Dec 2018, 8:12pm

Cyril Haearn wrote:
pete75 wrote:
mjr wrote:Safe number of what?

Is stopping the stupid ablist colour-coding of fire extinguishers and requiring clear labelling an EU thing, then? If so, as someone with different colour perception, as well as a sometimes drug-limited memory, that's a +1 for the EU then!


The different colouring for different type of extinguisher was very useful. When I worked as a fridge engineer we had several different types and when needed you had to grab one quickly not mess about reading a label. It certainly wasn't stupid to have them in different colours. Amongst the production workers in the factory it was ideal too. Far more likely to find one who couldn't read the labels rather than distinguish between colour.
If, as appears, Brexiters are claiming the changing of fire extinguisher colours as a benefit of leaving the EU it really highlights the weakness of their case.

In bad light or smoke one might not be able to identify them
Best to have great big simple text in black/white/fluorescent
Post 9 999 :wink:


In bad light or smoke it's harder to read the text which isn't usually very big.

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Re: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

Postby sizbut » 21 Dec 2018, 8:16pm

Yay... 10,000 posts. Well done everyone. Now get back to your Christmas shopping and hopes that your drone in under the tree.

And for those already making New Year's resolutions; remember, no backstops.

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Re: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

Postby Cyril Haearn » 21 Dec 2018, 8:44pm

merseymouth wrote:Hi, I was asked for a reason of how the E.U. controls us. I give an instance then I get ridiculed for not providing a manifesto sized file!
I ask you a question - How as the E.U. enhanced my life? MM

Dunno enough about you to answer that :wink:
I could tell you how it enhanced my life, Plus 99

It has enabled and encouraged a lot of unnecessary industry and transport, -1
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Re: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

Postby Cyril Haearn » 21 Dec 2018, 8:51pm

pete75 wrote:
Cyril Haearn wrote:
pete75 wrote:
The different colouring for different type of extinguisher was very useful. When I worked as a fridge engineer we had several different types and when needed you had to grab one quickly not mess about reading a label. It certainly wasn't stupid to have them in different colours. Amongst the production workers in the factory it was ideal too. Far more likely to find one who couldn't read the labels rather than distinguish between colour.
If, as appears, Brexiters are claiming the changing of fire extinguisher colours as a benefit of leaving the EU it really highlights the weakness of their case.

In bad light or smoke one might not be able to identify them
Best to have great big simple text in black/white/fluorescent
Post 9 999 :wink:


In bad light or smoke it's harder to read the text which isn't usually very big.

Why are you so argumentative? :wink:
I wrote: great - big- simple text in b/w/f
(You could have just Plus Oned my post)
They could be colour coded as well, and with tactile marks in case of complete darkness, why not? Colour-coding is ableism, comparable to racism, increases danger. The EU did me some good, got me thinking about fire-extinguishers (answer to mm)
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Re: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

Postby Cunobelin » 22 Dec 2018, 9:17am

pete75 wrote:
Cyril Haearn wrote:
pete75 wrote:
The different colouring for different type of extinguisher was very useful. When I worked as a fridge engineer we had several different types and when needed you had to grab one quickly not mess about reading a label. It certainly wasn't stupid to have them in different colours. Amongst the production workers in the factory it was ideal too. Far more likely to find one who couldn't read the labels rather than distinguish between colour.
If, as appears, Brexiters are claiming the changing of fire extinguisher colours as a benefit of leaving the EU it really highlights the weakness of their case.

In bad light or smoke one might not be able to identify them
Best to have great big simple text in black/white/fluorescent
Post 9 999 :wink:


In bad light or smoke it's harder to read the text which isn't usually very big.



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Re: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

Postby mercalia » 22 Dec 2018, 9:25am

I dont know if I should believe what the news broadcasters say any more

"The Labour leader insisted that even if his party won a snap general election in the new year, he would seek to go to Brussels and try to secure a better deal – if possible, in time to allow Brexit to go ahead on 29 March."

if true what fanstasy world is he living in?

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/dec/21/jeremy-corbyn-labour-policy-leaving-eu?utm_term=RWRpdG9yaWFsX0d1YXJkaWFuVG9kYXlVS19XZWVrZW5kLTE4MTIyMg%3D%3D&utm_source=esp&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=GuardianTodayUK&CMP=GTUK_email