Eye off the ball?

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Eye off the ball?

Postby thirdcrank » 4 Nov 2016, 1:42pm

Particularly for anybody who doesn't pay much attention to football news, there are some startling revelations from the BBC about the spiralling costs of the 2012 Olympic Stadium, now the home of West Ham. Just one example of how the costs have run out of control: as a running track around a soccer pitch is not spectator-friendly, extendable seating has been installed to get the paying public closer to the playing area, and this is retracted whenever the whole area is needed for an event.

rather than the £300,000 originally quoted for manually moving thousands of seats on wheels, costs could rise to £8m a year.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/37843313

I wonder what Alf Garnett would have made of it. :?

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Re: Eye off the ball?

Postby Psamathe » 4 Nov 2016, 3:05pm

I thought I read that the stadium Chairman resigned immediately on the Mayor announcing an inquiry into the stadium finances. Sort of makes one wonder quite what is going on. If all were "right and proper" they he would have stayed in post and demonstrated how good a job he was doing ...

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Re: Eye off the ball?

Postby blackbike » 4 Nov 2016, 5:21pm

It was well known before the games that no Olympics have left a lasting legacy of sports participation and that they usually end up costing a fortune for the host country, and many times the original estimate.

This mess was entirely predictable, and shame on New Labour for allowing a bid for the games, and for not cancelling the games in 2005 as soon as they were awarded to London.

Labour and wasting money always go together.

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Re: Eye off the ball?

Postby Mick F » 4 Nov 2016, 8:37pm

Forget the political-ism, thank you.

The problem with the olympics, is that they always cost money. They are a poison chalice.
If I ruled the world, they would be always at the same place every time. Participating teams would pay to participate.
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Re: Eye off the ball?

Postby mercalia » 4 Nov 2016, 8:44pm

should have had a referendum for that also and those who wanted it should pay for it? problem solved one way or another 8)

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Re: Eye off the ball?

Postby Psamathe » 4 Nov 2016, 8:49pm

Mick F wrote:...The problem with the olympics, is that they always cost money. They are a poison chalice.
If I ruled the world, they would be always at the same place every time. Participating teams would pay to participate.

They don't seem to have much impact of participation in sports either. I don't think I'd be keen on even having them always in one place (though that would be better than building new facilities every few years). I think elitism in sport can discourage people - far better to have more (cheaper) competitions all over the place so more people can go and watch and think "maybe I should try ...". Things like the various "tours" cycle races that pop-up around the country and seem to draw decent crowds.

Occasional high profile events seem to have little long term impact - but all that said, I'm not any sort of expert at getting people to participate (but those in high sporting admin places don't seem to be making much progress with their occasional elitist events either).

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Re: Eye off the ball?

Postby NATURAL ANKLING » 4 Nov 2016, 8:52pm

Hi,
If I ruled the world I would make Olympic host maintain the stadium for Olympics / other sports and get them to host games every year, compete against the other stadiums.

Ban the horrible game full of funny speaking men who for some reason can demand daily air time on the BBC........................................
All that money and nothing to show for it :twisted:

Why people have no interest in non footy sport I don't know, (poke'mon and gambling must bring more satisfaction............for a few seconds) probably because they don't like breaking sweat..................walking up stairs.

Let any insignificant peninsula have devolution and put in border control :mrgreen:
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Re: Eye off the ball?

Postby bovlomov » 4 Nov 2016, 9:16pm

Mick F wrote:If I ruled the world, they would be always at the same place every time.

Greece. Perhaps the huge, ever moving, money-sucking gravy train would come to a halt, and the focus would shift from the sponsors' adverts to the running, jumping and throwing.

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Re: Eye off the ball?

Postby DaveP » 4 Nov 2016, 9:27pm

And the wrestling, bare knuckle boxing and the nudity. Especially the nudity :shock:
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Re: Eye off the ball?

Postby DaveP » 4 Nov 2016, 9:34pm

What gets my goat about the Stadium Affair is that a wealthy football club got their hands on a publicly funded arena at a peppercorn rent, with maintenance and grounds care thrown in and now, having decided that there are one or two features that they don't really like after all, seem to be expecting someone else, ie. me and you to fund the modification or reconstruction.
I feel faintly shafted every time I see a mention...
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Re: Eye off the ball?

Postby blackbike » 4 Nov 2016, 10:49pm

Mick F wrote:Forget the political-ism, thank you.

The problem with the olympics, is that they always cost money. They are a poison chalice.
If I ruled the world, they would be always at the same place every time. Participating teams would pay to participate.


Thirdcrank did ask what Alf Garnett would have thought about the huge waste of government money on the Olympics which continues because of the stadium.

He'd have blamed the bloody socialists just like I did, because they are to blame. Labour allowed the games to come here.

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Re: Eye off the ball?

Postby bovlomov » 4 Nov 2016, 11:14pm

blackbike wrote: Labour allowed the games to come here.

Facilitated by a Tory mayor and maladministered by a Tory Peer.
The blame can be shared.

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Re: Eye off the ball?

Postby blackbike » 4 Nov 2016, 11:33pm

bovlomov wrote:
blackbike wrote: Labour allowed the games to come here.

Facilitated by a Tory mayor and maladministered by a Tory Peer.
The blame can be shared.



Boris had no say in the games happening or not. He only became mayor three years after Labour's successful bid for the games.

Lord Coe could not have participated in the bid if it had never happened, and Labour were entirely responsible for it happening.

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Re: Eye off the ball?

Postby bovlomov » 4 Nov 2016, 11:48pm

blackbike wrote:
bovlomov wrote:
blackbike wrote: Labour allowed the games to come here.

Facilitated by a Tory mayor and maladministered by a Tory Peer.
The blame can be shared.



Boris had no say in the games happening or not. He only became mayor three years after Labour's successful bid for the games.

Lord Coe could not have participated in the bid if it had never happened, and Labour were entirely responsible for it happening.

Both had a say in the management and mismanagement of the games. No need to let them off the hook, I think. But, yes, it began as a New Labour vanity project.