Europe’s leaders to force Britain into hard Brexit

[pete75]

We are out, so let's stay out.
Freedom of movement isn't a good thing for this country. We need English jobs for English people, simple!

So what have you got against the Scots and the Welsh?

[landsurfer]

Maybe it's because the Scots and Welsh have their own parliament.
The English don't.
No voice in their own country.

[pete75]

Maybe it's because the Scots and Welsh have their own parliament.
The English don't.
No voice in their own country.

Actually they do - the vast majority of MPs at Westminster are representing English interests and constituencies. That's why Scotland needs it's own parliament. Wales does not have a parliament, it's an assembly with fairly limited powers. A small concession after being ruled by England since the days of Owen Glendower.

[Paulatic]

Maybe it's because the Scots and Welsh have their own parliament.
The English don't.
No voice in their own country.

533 constituencies in England and you say non of them have a voice for England?
Time for a new education minister down there me thinks.

[syklist]

We are out, so let's stay out.
Freedom of movement isn't a good thing for this country. We need English jobs for English people, simple!

I am getting flashbacks to the League of Gentleman's Local Shop after reading that.

[landsurfer]

533 constituencies who must be subject to interference from the democratically elected parliament of Scotland.

[Paulatic]

533 constituencies who must be subject to interference from the democratically elected parliament of Scotland.

The Scottish Parliament has only powers for devolved matters. I fail to see how a decision on a devolved matter can interfere with the UK government.

[landsurfer]

Semantics, Scottish MPs vote on matters only affecting England in Parliament.
Surely that's not fair, either way ?
The devil is not in the detail.
The details are the devils.

[Paulatic]

As you pointed out, they vote on matters only affecting England in Parliament.
Surely that's not fair, either way ?

If I understand it rightly you are now referring to the 59 elected Scottish MPs for Westminster? Earlier you were referring to the Scottish Parliament. Also If I understand you right you are now referring to the West Lothian question. I thought new rules first invoked in January this year, upsetting the SNP, were made to help solve it.

[landsurfer]

Less politics, more cycling.

[pete75]

Semantics, Scottish MPs vote on matters only affecting England in Parliament.
Surely that's not fair, either way ?
The devil is not in the detail.
The details are the devils.

Let's see 59 Scottish MPs 533 English MPs. How on earth can the Scottish members force something on England against the wishes of English members.