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SpannerGeek wrote:Sorry, but that's about as much hyperbole as I can stomach today.
Pass the tin bucket, nurse.
Psamathe wrote:SpannerGeek wrote:...
But seriously, what's so eerily wrong with Nigel, that the government can't even consider him as a liaison between the UK and America? It makes absolutely no sense....
Ambassadors are diplomatic roles NOT political roles. An Ambassador has to pursue the interests of his country as defined by the government.
So, suppose Ms May decided Freedom of Movement was actually a good thing and decided to go for a "very soft Brexit". Our ambassadors would be obliged to argue that course was the best for the UK and to pursue that outcome, represent the case for it, etc. Can you see Farage (with no diplomatic training) doing that? He'd be following whatever he wanted as he wanted, his own personal ideology, etc.
And does he even deserve any reward for what he's done. and what he's done he's done unofficially anyway as he played no part in the recognised Leave campaign (and even that campaign was critical of him on occasions).
It would be a totally daft appointment.
But what is the UK President Elect doing proposing people for UK diplomatic roles? It is none of his business. Would he listen to the UK if we started saying who he should appoint as the US Ambassador to the UK ?
Ian
SpannerGeek wrote:bovlomov wrote:[quote="SpannerGeek"
I think a cheese and ham sandwich would be a better Foreign Secretary than Boris Johnson.
SpannerGeek wrote:I'm not suggesting he should be U.S. ambassador but to ignore the obvious friendship and perhaps influence he has over the next President of the United States, surely a minor role would be advantageous to the 'special relationship ' which seems to have floundered on the rocks of late?
Paulatic wrote:SpannerGeek wrote:I'm not suggesting he should be U.S. ambassador but to ignore the obvious friendship and perhaps influence he has over the next President of the United States, surely a minor role would be advantageous to the 'special relationship ' which seems to have floundered on the rocks of late?
If I'm not sick if hearing about this "special relationship " As I understand it was only while we were in debt to USA and weve now paid off that debt.
It looks to me as if we should start distancing ourselves from Trump not pandering to him.
landsurfer wrote:SpannerGeek wrote:bovlomov wrote:[quote="SpannerGeek"
I think a cheese and ham sandwich would be a better Foreign Secretary than Boris Johnson.
I like Boris, but Foreign Secretary ....... Mrs May was having a giggle .........
SpannerGeek wrote:Paulatic wrote:SpannerGeek wrote:I'm not suggesting he should be U.S. ambassador but to ignore the obvious friendship and perhaps influence he has over the next President of the United States, surely a minor role would be advantageous to the 'special relationship ' which seems to have floundered on the rocks of late?
If I'm not sick if hearing about this "special relationship " As I understand it was only while we were in debt to USA and weve now paid off that debt.
It looks to me as if we should start distancing ourselves from Trump not pandering to him.
Given the pound has risen an astonishing 7% (it's highest 2 week rise for 8 years) predominantly on the back of the reaffirmation of the 'special relationship', I hardly think the U.S. is a market and a partner we can afford to neglect. Doubly so since we'lo be out of the Single market shortly and on our uppers for free trade partners...
mercalia wrote:the reason why it wont happen is that lets face it Mr Farage is an outsider he dont belong to the club? Mrs May says she wants to govern for the people unlike the elitest posh Cameron, but its at a distance type, in the way you feed the animals at the zoo. The political establishment is too snooty to make anything of Mr Farage.
pete75 wrote:mercalia wrote:the reason why it wont happen is that lets face it Mr Farage is an outsider he dont belong to the club? Mrs May says she wants to govern for the people unlike the elitest posh Cameron, but its at a distance type, in the way you feed the animals at the zoo. The political establishment is too snooty to make anything of Mr Farage.
Except Farage is from a far more snooty background than May. His background is pretty close to Cameron's, father a stockbroker and attended a leading public school.
JimL wrote:It is only a few years since Alex Salmond and his crew were licking the a**e of Donald Trump and the SNP governement overturned the Aberdeen Council planning descision ( decided on the casting vote of the LibDem chairman who was subsequently sacked by the LibDem leadership) to ensure Trump invested in Salmond's constituency.
At the time the SNP were going on about how this was an example of how under indepedennce the diaspora from across the sea would invest in the 'auld country' (and they were even going to give them all citizenship).
The few who stood against Trump were derided by the scottish political establishment.
syklist wrote:SpannerGeek wrote:Apologies to XTC for ripping a song lyric..
But seriously, what's so eerily wrong with Nigel, that the government can't even consider him as a liaison between the UK and America? It makes absolutely no sense.
I don't know what meds you are on but they clearly do not seem to be working.
Paulatic wrote:JimL wrote:It is only a few years since Alex Salmond and his crew were licking the a**e of Donald Trump and the SNP governement overturned the Aberdeen Council planning descision ( decided on the casting vote of the LibDem chairman who was subsequently sacked by the LibDem leadership) to ensure Trump invested in Salmond's constituency.
At the time the SNP were going on about how this was an example of how under indepedennce the diaspora from across the sea would invest in the 'auld country' (and they were even going to give them all citizenship).
The few who stood against Trump were derided by the scottish political establishment.
Worth remembering it was Jack McConnel who initially courted Trump. The government at the time of the Aberdeen Council planning decision was a minority SNP. We've Patrick Harvie (greens) to thank for later turning the view,IMO, on Trump.