Si wrote:There are some decent folks on here and it's a shame people are being put off by a small minority. Sure they are allowed their point of view despite the fact those views are extreme, however their delivery is often crass, without wisdom and points seem to be 'won' by sniping.
I would say that there are lots of decent folk on here but I generally agree with your comments. I've nothing against political discussion but it needs to be conducted in a respectful, polite way. After all, what's the point of being rude to someone that you don't agree with - being rude is hardly going to persuade them of your views and it just demonstrates to everyone else that you have so little faith in your POV that it can't stand on the facts alone.
I agree with this up to a point.
Warning - the following contains unsubstantiated opinion. If you don't like it then welcome to my world, pull up a chair.
The best examples of political discussion on this forum are IMO those that deal with cycling or CTC/CUK issues. (helmets, branding, governance etc.) I have to admit that I rarely follow them (I'm not that interested in the details) but most times when I skim through I see well considered ideas that are argued with respect, and perhaps more importantly there's often relevant data to back up the poster's opinions.
On the other hand, many of the recent threads which are being labelled as political debate barely qualify as debate. They talk about political issues, sure, but there's rarely anything to actually discuss. The threads I've seen tend to follow the pattern of:
"Isn't this thing ridiculous?!?
"No it isn't and you're foolish for thinking that it is."
"Help! Help! I'm being oppressed!"
Seriously, what is the point?
I'd love to see a politics section on this forum, just show me first where the political debate on current affairs is being held. And this is where I disagree with you Si - "being rude is hardly going to persuade them of your views" - my thoughts immediately turned to a quote attributed to Jonathan Swift;
"You cannot reason someone out of something he or she was not reasoned into."