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Re: Libraries, public, decline of: DDC 020.336

Postby brynpoeth » 21 Jan 2018, 7:31pm

Stopped in Schiedam (Nederland) on a Sunday, most of the shops were open :( and the library was open :?:
In Germany public libraries are not allowed to open Sundays
Maybe they should open, is a library a leisure facility?
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Postby brynpoeth » 9 Feb 2018, 7:04pm

The Grauniad reports that Trafford libraries will abolish fines, +1!
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Re: Libraries, public, decline of: DDC 020.336

Postby brynpoeth » 9 Feb 2018, 7:06pm

NATURAL ANKLING wrote:Hi,
Oh crikes..........has it been that long :oops:

Must make a point about looking in..................almost walked past it yesterday :?

Will tell er indoors and she will probably remember to remind me................ :)

Hey NA
Still waiting for your report, please go inside next time!
Thanks in advance
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Postby hjd10 » 10 Feb 2018, 10:07pm

blackbike wrote:About two years ago I attended a meeting at my library which was about how to increase usage.

I suggested fewer opening hours during the day, more in the evenings, and Sunday opening. I said this would mean the library would be open during more hours when people were not at work or school.

We were told that the council's staff would be unlikely to agree to such an approach.

Adapt or die.

I've often thought that libraries have missed a trick, I'd have thought that incorporating services such as a coffee shop that people want, would help get more customers through the door. It would be easy to add these services to some libraries, however when have local councils every come up with good ideas?

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Re: Libraries, public, decline of: DDC 020.336

Postby NATURAL ANKLING » 12 Feb 2018, 11:45pm

Hi,
brynpoeth wrote:
NATURAL ANKLING wrote:Hi,
Oh crikes..........has it been that long :oops:

Must make a point about looking in..................almost walked past it yesterday :?

Will tell er indoors and she will probably remember to remind me................ :)

Hey NA
Still waiting for your report, please go inside next time!
Thanks in advance

Will tell er indoors when she gets in to remind me again, old style library used to be a regular thing.
are you local or just interested in modern Library's ?

Well was given orders to go there today, Auto opening doors - Café full of OAP's - Some books waiting to be taken home via a self scan - some sort of community benefits section - many computers to surf on - a lift and staircase to an viewing area, not sure what to view, street full of cars and buses - conference rooms - another library with old Paignton books etc - took about ten minutes - some middle age love birds kissing on the stairs - well its some where to go and get warm for free - probably much more - but maybe somewhere to go when I am older and need a stick.

Most of the stuff Torbay Council does fails almost overnight or costs every year for the next 25 years, one of the worst councils in the country, even gets a mention in the house of commons :roll:
Plenty white elephants to employ mates etc.
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Re: Libraries, public, decline of: DDC 020.336

Postby pwa » 13 Feb 2018, 8:40am

Judging by my own family, the future of our nearest library does not look good. My mother (in her 80s) once used libraries a lot, but her books now come handed on by friends or from charity shops. My son doesn't read fiction much but my daughter seems to have a book on the go all the time. But she buys them. As a family we go into the library when we want new recycling bags for garden waste, which the councils sells there. It is just not how we get our reading matter any more.

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Re: Libraries, public, decline of: DDC 020.336

Postby brynpoeth » 13 Feb 2018, 9:21am

NATURAL ANKLING wrote:Hi,
brynpoeth wrote:
NATURAL ANKLING wrote:Hi,
Oh crikes..........has it been that long :oops:

Must make a point about looking in..................almost walked past it yesterday :?

Will tell er indoors and she will probably remember to remind me................ :)

Hey NA
Still waiting for your report, please go inside next time!
Thanks in advance

Will tell er indoors when she gets in to remind me again, old style library used to be a regular thing.
are you local or just interested in modern Library's ?

Well was given orders to go there today, Auto opening doors - Café full of OAP's - Some books waiting to be taken home via a self scan - some sort of community benefits section - many computers to surf on - a lift and staircase to an viewing area, not sure what to view, street full of cars and buses - conference rooms - another library with old Paignton books etc - took about ten minutes - some middle age love birds kissing on the stairs - well its some where to go and get warm for free - probably much more - but maybe somewhere to go when I am older and need a stick.

Most of the stuff Torbay Council does fails almost overnight or costs every year for the next 25 years, one of the worst councils in the country, even gets a mention in the house of commons :roll:
Plenty white elephants to employ mates etc.

Hey NA
No I am not local just interested, I did work in the book trade many years ago
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Re: Libraries, public, decline of: DDC 020.336

Postby Vorpal » 13 Feb 2018, 9:47am

I love libraries. Not only do I use the library regularly, but I take my kids, too. When I was in the UK, our village library was busy on the days it was open (IIRC, Tues, Thurs, Sat). They had story time for the little ones on weekday mornings, and the local preschool came in sometimes, too. There were often a few people standing about chatting, and the hour or so after school was busy, too. Some of the children got books or DVDs from the village library that they ordered from other libraries; series of young adult novels & stuff like that.
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Re: Libraries, public, decline of: DDC 020.336

Postby brynpoeth » 13 Feb 2018, 10:00am

Vorpal wrote:I love libraries. Not only do I use the library regularly, but I take my kids, too. When I was in the UK, our village library was busy on the days it was open (IIRC, Tues, Thurs, Sat). They had story time for the little ones on weekday mornings, and the local preschool came in sometimes, too. There were often a few people standing about chatting, and the hour or so after school was busy, too. Some of the children got books or DVDs from the village library that they ordered from other libraries; series of young adult novels & stuff like that.

Standing about chatting, is that allowed? :wink:
The storytelling sessions are good for grownups too, +1
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Re: Libraries, public, decline of: DDC 020.336

Postby Mick F » 13 Feb 2018, 5:11pm

pwa wrote:Judging by my own family, the future of our nearest library does not look good. My mother (in her 80s) once used libraries a lot, but her books now come handed on by friends or from charity shops. My son doesn't read fiction much but my daughter seems to have a book on the go all the time. But she buys them. As a family we go into the library when we want new recycling bags for garden waste, which the councils sells there. It is just not how we get our reading matter any more.
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Postby gbnz » 13 Feb 2018, 7:10pm

hjd10 wrote:
blackbike wrote: at my library which was about how to increase usage.

I suggested fewer opening hours during the day, more in the evenings, and Sunday opening. I said this would mean the library would be open during more hours when people were not at work or school.
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Hmm.....following relocation, I dropped into my local library as a priority.

Or would have done, but turned out that despite being the main, central library in the county, it closes at 5.30pm weekdays, doesn't open any evenings and is closed at weekends. In short, I need to be >67 or have a P45 to use it

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Postby JohnW » 13 Feb 2018, 8:57pm

Mick F wrote:Personally, I think that they should close them all and the councils could spend more money on other stuff. Stuff that the people use, rather than a small minority.
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Mick...............surely that was said tongue in cheek.

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Postby Vorpal » 13 Feb 2018, 9:11pm

gbnz wrote:
hjd10 wrote:
blackbike wrote: at my library which was about how to increase usage.

I suggested fewer opening hours during the day, more in the evenings, and Sunday opening. I said this would mean the library would be open during more hours when people were not at work or school.
.


Hmm.....following relocation, I dropped into my local library as a priority.

Or would have done, but turned out that despite being the main, central library in the county, it closes at 5.30pm weekdays, doesn't open any evenings and is closed at weekends. In short, I need to be >67 or have a P45 to use it

Essex may not be the most cycle-friendly county, but it is library-friendly. The Colchester & Chelmsford libraries are open 'til 6:30 pm and also on Saturdays & Sundays. Most village libraries are open at least a few hours outside 'office' hours (e.g. Saturday morning), and even some tiny places get mobile library service.

Some libraries in Essex also have homework help or homework club just after school lets out.
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Postby Mick F » 14 Feb 2018, 9:56am

JohnW wrote:
Mick F wrote:Personally, I think that they should close them all and the councils could spend more money on other stuff. Stuff that the people use, rather than a small minority.
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Mick...............surely that was said tongue in cheek.
Nope.
Not at all.

Close the libraries, turn them into housing.
Spend the money on street cleaning, local services, cheaper parking at hospitals, better bus services, road repairs, hedge clearing and tree felling.
Loads of stuff could be done instead of spending on libraries.
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Re: Libraries, public, decline of: DDC 020.336

Postby Lawrie9 » 14 Feb 2018, 9:33pm

Most libraries will go as councils seem to be going bust all over the place. The big ones were fantastic places and I used to use the photocopier and got vinyl records out as well.
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