Libraries, public, renaissance of: DDC 020.336

Use this board for general non-cycling-related chat, or to introduce yourself to the forum.
User avatar
fausto copy
Posts: 2472
Joined: 14 Dec 2008, 6:51pm
Location: Pembrokeshire

Re: Libraries, public, renaissance of: DDC 020.336

Postby fausto copy » 13 Oct 2019, 7:09pm

Err, can we get back on topic please people. :roll:

User avatar
Mick F
Spambuster
Posts: 46728
Joined: 7 Jan 2007, 11:24am
Location: Tamar Valley, Cornwall

Re: Libraries, public, renaissance of: DDC 020.336

Postby Mick F » 13 Oct 2019, 7:14pm

Libraries?
As far as I'm concerned, close them all. Waste of my Council Tax.
If you want to read a book, buy one. If you want to read a book, there's millions in charity shops a quid each or even for free.
Mick F. Cornwall

brynpoeth
Posts: 11241
Joined: 30 Nov 2013, 11:26am

Re: Libraries, public, renaissance of: DDC 020.336

Postby brynpoeth » 13 Oct 2019, 8:34pm

Mick F wrote:Libraries?
As far as I'm concerned, close them all. Waste of my Council Tax.
If you want to read a book, buy one. If you want to read a book, there's millions in charity shops a quid each or even for free.

You wrote that before, you may write it again, back on topic :wink:
What about the British Library, full of ancient documents, or subscription libraries, paid for by users?
You are right about free books, picked up several today including one by Peter Handke who just won the Nobel Prize despite some distasteful opinions :?
Entertainer, kidult, curmudgeon
Cycling-of course, but it is far better on a Gillott
We love safety cameras, we love life

reohn2
Posts: 36273
Joined: 26 Jun 2009, 8:21pm

Re: Libraries, public, renaissance of: DDC 020.336

Postby reohn2 » 13 Oct 2019, 8:39pm

Mick F wrote:Libraries?
As far as I'm concerned, close them all. Waste of my Council Tax.
If you want to read a book, buy one. If you want to read a book, there's millions in charity shops a quid each or even for free.

As I posted on page 2 of this thread,libraries aren't just for borrowing books,they benefit the whole spectrum of society on a whole spectrum of things they need and not just the Mick self spectrum :?

We've been through this movie before.
-----------------------------------------------------------
I cycle therefore I am.

User avatar
bigjim
Posts: 3111
Joined: 2 Feb 2008, 5:08pm
Location: Manchester

Re: Libraries, public, renaissance of: DDC 020.336

Postby bigjim » 13 Oct 2019, 10:19pm

I lived in the library as a kid and still use it every week
I could never have had the money to purchase all those books as a child. Why should that wonderful knowledge or the joy of reading only be available to those with the ability to pay?
Nothing left to prove.

reohn2
Posts: 36273
Joined: 26 Jun 2009, 8:21pm

Re: Libraries, public, renaissance of: DDC 020.336

Postby reohn2 » 13 Oct 2019, 10:27pm

bigjim wrote:I lived in the library as a kid and still use it every week
I could never have had the money to purchase all those books as a child. Why should that wonderful knowledge or the joy of reading only be available to those with the ability to pay?

Because that's the way of the new capitalism,you are what you have.If you have nothing you're no one.
-----------------------------------------------------------
I cycle therefore I am.

Oldjohnw
Posts: 1915
Joined: 16 Oct 2018, 4:23am
Location: Northumberland

Re: Libraries, public, renaissance of: DDC 020.336

Postby Oldjohnw » 14 Oct 2019, 12:31am

Mick F wrote:Libraries?
As far as I'm concerned, close them all. Waste of my Council Tax.
If you want to read a book, buy one. If you want to read a book, there's millions in charity shops a quid each or even for free.


There are books other than cheap novels. Reference books can cost hundreds. Choirs hire music, too.
John

Cycling and recycling

User avatar
fausto copy
Posts: 2472
Joined: 14 Dec 2008, 6:51pm
Location: Pembrokeshire

Re: Libraries, public, renaissance of: DDC 020.336

Postby fausto copy » 14 Oct 2019, 10:09am

reohn2 wrote:
bigjim wrote:I lived in the library as a kid and still use it every week
I could never have had the money to purchase all those books as a child. Why should that wonderful knowledge or the joy of reading only be available to those with the ability to pay?

Because that's the way of the new capitalism,you are what you have.If you have nothing you're no one.


"you are what you have"

that seems to be the most pertinent statement these days.

Thankfully there are still a few of us that aren't bound by all the mass consumerism.
And for some of us, if we haven't got it, we can borrow it (as in libraries :wink: ).

brynpoeth
Posts: 11241
Joined: 30 Nov 2013, 11:26am

Re: Libraries, public, renaissance of: DDC 020.336

Postby brynpoeth » 14 Oct 2019, 10:16am

'You are what you have'
Oh dear. I have a lot of books :wink:
Entertainer, kidult, curmudgeon
Cycling-of course, but it is far better on a Gillott
We love safety cameras, we love life

reohn2
Posts: 36273
Joined: 26 Jun 2009, 8:21pm

Re: Libraries, public, renaissance of: DDC 020.336

Postby reohn2 » 14 Oct 2019, 10:28am

fausto copy wrote:"you are what you have"

that seems to be the most pertinent statement these days.

Unfortunately it was ever thus in some people's minds,it's the basis of the class system.

Thankfully there are still a few of us that aren't bound by all the mass consumerism.

To an extent we all are,the system has been set up that way.

And for some of us, if we haven't got it, we can borrow it (as in libraries :wink: ).

Which is a sign of a more equal society,unfortunately those 'signs' have become more limited by the austerity plan of the past decade and will need a lot of effort to regain.
-----------------------------------------------------------
I cycle therefore I am.

reohn2
Posts: 36273
Joined: 26 Jun 2009, 8:21pm

Re: Libraries, public, renaissance of: DDC 020.336

Postby reohn2 » 14 Oct 2019, 10:29am

brynpoeth wrote:'You are what you have'
Oh dear. I have a lot of books :wink:

What do you want them all for?
-----------------------------------------------------------
I cycle therefore I am.

brynpoeth
Posts: 11241
Joined: 30 Nov 2013, 11:26am

Re: Libraries, public, renaissance of: DDC 020.336

Postby brynpoeth » 14 Oct 2019, 10:39am

reohn2 wrote:
brynpoeth wrote:'You are what you have'
Oh dear. I have a lot of books :wink:

What do you want them all for?

Used to borrow lots of books from the library
Now I like to keep books I have read, I get many cheap or free
Just got a book voucher as a present, had to cycle out to Shopping Heaven (the bookstore has no branch in town) and order two new books that I had had my eye on for a while, but I was too mean to buy them new :wink:

Home is full of books, a harmless matter I think, they do not smell or need to be fed and cared for

Often I need not go on the interweb, questions about Irish Wolfhounds and about orchestra conductors came up on these fora, I have books about both
Last edited by brynpoeth on 14 Oct 2019, 10:40am, edited 1 time in total.
Entertainer, kidult, curmudgeon
Cycling-of course, but it is far better on a Gillott
We love safety cameras, we love life

Vorpal
Moderator
Posts: 17294
Joined: 19 Jan 2009, 3:34pm
Location: Not there ;)

Re: Libraries, public, renaissance of: DDC 020.336

Postby Vorpal » 14 Oct 2019, 10:40am

reohn2 wrote:
brynpoeth wrote:'You are what you have'
Oh dear. I have a lot of books :wink:

What do you want them all for?

I have quite a few books. I like to read them. I especially like to read when I travel or use public transport.

I also have some books that are more interesting for browsing and looking things up, rather than reading cover to cover.

For example the Oxford Dictionary of British Place Names.
“In some ways, it is easier to be a dissident, for then one is without responsibility.”
― Nelson Mandela, Long Walk to Freedom

reohn2
Posts: 36273
Joined: 26 Jun 2009, 8:21pm

Re: Libraries, public, renaissance of: DDC 020.336

Postby reohn2 » 14 Oct 2019, 10:41am

brynpoeth wrote:
reohn2 wrote:
brynpoeth wrote:'You are what you have'
Oh dear. I have a lot of books :wink:

What do you want them all for?

Used to borrow lots of books from the library
Now I like to keep books I have read, I get many cheap or free
Just got a book voucher as a present, had to cycle to Shopping Heaven (the bookstore has no branch in town) and order two new books that I had had my eye on for a while, bit I was too mean to buy them new :wink:

Home is full of books, a harmless matter I think, they do not smell or need to be fed and cared for

Often I need not go on the interweb, questions about Irish Wolfhounds and about orchestra conductors came up on these fora, I have books about both

You could set up your own lending library,it would be a great resource for the community.
-----------------------------------------------------------
I cycle therefore I am.

brynpoeth
Posts: 11241
Joined: 30 Nov 2013, 11:26am

Re: Libraries, public, renaissance of: DDC 020.336

Postby brynpoeth » 14 Oct 2019, 10:43am

Good idea, but in my leafy suburb there would not be many customers

Besides, my collection is quite selective
Entertainer, kidult, curmudgeon
Cycling-of course, but it is far better on a Gillott
We love safety cameras, we love life