Make Your choice of Political leader

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if you had to choose, which of the following 2 politicians would you want as leader?

Margaret Thatcher
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42%
Tony Blair
15
58%
 
Total votes: 26

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Re: Make Your choice of Political leader

Postby broadway » 19 Apr 2017, 9:01am

Ben@Forest wrote:Whatever you think of her l think Thatcher was sincere in what she believed and lived her life, including after leaving office to that code. Blair is far more of a chancer, far more out for 'what he could get' both in political terms and after leaving the political arena.

It is interesting that both were/are convinced Christians, as is Tim Farron. Makes you wonder if that type of belief helps you justify, in your own mind, the rightness of your cause.


Aren't you forgetting May?

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Re: Make Your choice of Political leader

Postby reohn2 » 19 Apr 2017, 9:02am

Mick F wrote:.....The lesser of two weevils.


The lesser of two weasels.....

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Re: Make Your choice of Political leader

Postby fishfright » 19 Apr 2017, 10:39am

Too shoot or vote for ?

Vote, I'd vote for any living creature before Thatcher so Blair by default.


Shoot, Blair because the witch is already dead.

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Re: Make Your choice of Political leader

Postby Audax67 » 19 Apr 2017, 11:22am

Would sir prefer plague or cholera with his brandy?

Having watched both from afar with a disinterested eye I'd take Blair - he may have been a lying brown-nosed poodle wrt Dubya but he did less anti-EU whining than Maggie.
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Re: Make Your choice of Political leader

Postby djnotts » 19 Apr 2017, 4:50pm

Lesser evil ...Blair. At least he, unlike Thatcher, was intent on destroying those who lived elsewhere. Thatcher was simply a vicious Tory who, unlike e.g. May, didn't even try to hide her hatred of the poor and disabled and disadvantaged.

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Re: Make Your choice of Political leader

Postby hjd10 » 20 Apr 2017, 1:12am

Paulatic wrote:At least I was happy when we had Blair
Life was so bitter and divided, created huge turmoil to family life as we knew it under The evil Thatcher.
Or maybe it's always like that under a Tory gov?


I understand that for many people who lived in Mining towns etc, Thatcher was and is still seen as the devil. I grew up in a family whose parents were self employed and struggled to keep going when the power went out during the endless strikes of the 70's and 80's. Its a tough job trying to balance the books after a left wing party leaves the office...... :roll:

Thatcher any day over Blair! :evil: What is it they say never talk about politics or religion.....
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Re: Make Your choice of Political leader

Postby mercalia » 20 Apr 2017, 12:42pm

Bob the Builder?

you are lucky I am not in the list.JPG
you are lucky I am not in the list
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Re: Make Your choice of Political leader

Postby ChrisOntLancs » 20 Apr 2017, 12:56pm

hjd10 wrote:What is they say never talk about politics or religion.....


i dunno, i don't think it's fair to think less of somebody because of their perspective. that's my biggest gripe about politics, people do.

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Re: Make Your choice of Political leader

Postby Cyril Haearn » 20 Apr 2017, 4:27pm

mercalia wrote:Bob the Builder?

you are lucky I am not in the list.JPG


No, Fireman Sam is the one for me, he can resist any storm

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Re: Make Your choice of Political leader

Postby Paulatic » 20 Apr 2017, 6:49pm

hjd10 wrote:
Paulatic wrote:At least I was happy when we had Blair
Life was so bitter and divided, created huge turmoil to family life as we knew it under The evil Thatcher.
Or maybe it's always like that under a Tory gov?


I understand that for many people who lived in Mining towns etc, Thatcher was and is still seen as the devil. I grew up in a family whose parents were self employed and struggled to keep going when the power went out during the endless strikes of the 70's and 80's. Its a tough job trying to balance the books after a left wing party leaves the office...... :roll:

Thatcher any day over Blair! :evil: What is it they say never talk about politics or religion.....

We all had power cuts not just the self employed.
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Re: Make Your choice of Political leader

Postby reohn2 » 20 Apr 2017, 8:24pm

hjd10 wrote:I understand that for many people who lived in Mining towns etc, Thatcher was and is still seen as the devil. I grew up in a family whose parents were self employed and struggled to keep going when the power went out during the endless strikes of the 70's and 80's. Its a tough job trying to balance the books after a left wing party leaves the office...... :roll:

Thatcher any day over Blair! :evil: What is it they say never talk about politics or religion.....


I was a miner for 16 years,then I was self employed for the remainder of my working life.
Thatcher was evil,so was Blair.
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Re: Make Your choice of Political leader

Postby reohn2 » 20 Apr 2017, 8:26pm

hjd10 wrote:I understand that for many people who lived in Mining towns etc, Thatcher was and is still seen as the devil. I grew up in a family whose parents were self employed and struggled to keep going when the power went out during the endless strikes of the 70's and 80's. Its a tough job trying to balance the books after a left wing party leaves the office...... :roll:

Thatcher any day over Blair! :evil: What is it they say never talk about politics or religion.....


I was a miner for 16 years,then I was self employed for the remainder of my working life.
Thatcher was evil,so was Blair,but if I had to choose it wouldn't be Thatcher not by a long shot,a wicked,wicked,woman.
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Re: Make Your choice of Political leader

Postby Psamathe » 20 Apr 2017, 8:56pm

reohn2 wrote:...
Thatcher was evil,so was Blair,but if I had to choose it wouldn't be Thatcher not by a long shot,a wicked,wicked,woman.

I would agree. Weird thing is, given Thatchers legacy, the hate she still inspires, etc. how Ms May seems to be modelling herself on Thatcher! I can only think it is an indication how May is only interested in her own party and being a "Thatcher" appeals to many of her backbenchers and they keep May in power (rest of us are irrelevant).

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Re: Make Your choice of Political leader

Postby hjd10 » 21 Apr 2017, 12:20am

Paulatic wrote:
hjd10 wrote:
Paulatic wrote:At least I was happy when we had Blair
Life was so bitter and divided, created huge turmoil to family life as we knew it under The evil Thatcher.
Or maybe it's always like that under a Tory gov?


I understand that for many people who lived in Mining towns etc, Thatcher was and is still seen as the devil. I grew up in a family whose parents were self employed and struggled to keep going when the power went out during the endless strikes of the 70's and 80's. Its a tough job trying to balance the books after a left wing party leaves the office...... :roll:

Thatcher any day over Blair! :evil: What is it they say never talk about politics or religion.....

We all had power cuts not just the self employed.


Correct only if you need electric to turn the wheels of your business your stuck. Trying to hold the Country to ransom was never going to work and in the end it didn't matter.

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Re: Make Your choice of Political leader

Postby reohn2 » 21 Apr 2017, 8:36am

Psamathe wrote:
reohn2 wrote:...
Thatcher was evil,so was Blair,but if I had to choose it wouldn't be Thatcher not by a long shot,a wicked,wicked,woman.

I would agree. Weird thing is, given Thatchers legacy, the hate she still inspires, etc. how Ms May seems to be modelling herself on Thatcher! I can only think it is an indication how May is only interested in her own party and being a "Thatcher" appeals to many of her backbenchers and they keep May in power (rest of us are irrelevant).

Ian

Spot on!
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