Racial Profiling

[ChrisOntLancs]

Anglo Saxon innit.

thank you for providing me with a less self-destructive method of venting my frustration!

[Ruadh495]

Completely representative of our household, thanks.

Mine too.

I noticed the phenomenon in a BBC article on heterosexual couples seeking civil partnership rather than marriage (which the law does not currently allow). All the illustrations in the article were of mixed race couples and it looked like they were implying that mixed race couples shouldn't / couldn't have conventional marriages. As half of a married interracial couple, I was wondering if I could get highly offended and sue for loads of money... then decided I couldn't be bothered. My wife couldn't be bothered either.

I think it's just "two for the price of one" on their inclusivity stats.

I don't complete "ethnic origin" forms anymore either. Wife was brought up under Apartheid and resents being asked, so I refuse to complete them in solidarity.

[AMMoffat]

Completely representative of our household, thanks.

I don't complete "ethnic origin" forms anymore either. Wife was brought up under Apartheid and resents being asked, so I refuse to complete them in solidarity.

I've never completed these forms either as I resent the fact that if you are white you can be categorised as white or white British but if you are non-white you must break down your non-whiteness (blackness in my case) into Black Caribbean/African/mixed/other. I've never seen one of these forms where I can just be "black British".

No wonder we keep having conversations in this country about integration when it is not even accepted at an official level.

[Tangled Metal]

On race forms can I tick "other" and in the line to describe race I'll put "European"? Why only white British? I'm a mongrel blend of European stock if you go far enough back. 3 generations back I'm English, Welsh, Swedish, German and American that I can remember. There's a story Spanish comes in a little further back. However there's only white British.

BTW I put Jedi for religion on the last census. I didn't see any option that fitted and TBH I resent the state monitoring religion even more than I resent ethnicity being monitored for whatever reason they claim it's for.

[Boyd]

My brother is white his wife is black, it is quite normal. To suggest there is something wrong with that makes your views a bit iffy. A bit like the black man who dragged a black women of a tube train because she had child of mixed race. Broke the child's collar bone or was it the women's?

[Boyd]

TBH I resent the state monitoring religion even more than I resent ethnicity being monitored for whatever reason they claim it's for.

How can they check that the races and religions are represented equally in all jobs. Particularly in well paid ones. For instance are those of Indians and Pakistani origin fairly represented in all ranks of the medical profession? How can you shout racism without some evidence?

[Vorpal]

In these adverts all couples are of mixed colour, and the children of these fictious couples are always of mixed colour.

If they had nothing but adverts with mixed race families for the next 20 years, it still wouldn't make up for all the years when minority and mixed race children had to look at television and wonder why there was nobody but white people on it.

[Lance Dopestrong]

Why should it be a case of making up for the past?

It should be a case of doing the right thing and moving forward.

They being a Jewish male, when even the diversity cuddling Labour Party institutionally perpetuates discrimination and hatred against them.

[landsurfer]

Then lets reflect current society, let every 1 in 6 adverts show non white actors and the other 5 white.
Diversity requires equality.

[Vorpal]

Then lets reflect current society, let every 1 in 6 adverts show non white actors and the other 5 white.
Diversity requires equality.

Diversity does not require equality. It requires equity.

[landsurfer]

Then let's have some !

[ChrisOntLancs]

How can they check that the races and religions are represented equally in all jobs

haha i guess you're right. personally i prefer when potential employers speculate on my religion and sexual orientation

[Boyd]

Then lets reflect current society, let every 1 in 6 adverts show non white actors and the other 5 white.
Diversity requires equality.

Diversity does not require equality. It requires equity.

How can you have equity without equality?

[Cunobelin]

It's been many years since I watched either 'Casualty' or 'Holby City'. I used to see it more often when my wife, who is a nurse, worked on a ward and I think enjoyed pointing out all the things that were wrong, but one thing she used to note was that though it often had characters with a wide spread of ethnicity these were all still British i.e. there was a lack of characters who were foreign-born or trained staff - there was never a character with a strong Nigerian or Portuguese or Singaporean accent.

This was years ago - maybe ten or twelve - so maybe both programmes have changed, but I think the ridiculousness of a city hospital with no foreign staff was pretty plain. My wife is still a nurse but not in a city hospital - and not on a ward - she works almost exclusively with white, British staff.

I often wonder what the CQC would make of it all

[Vorpal]

Then lets reflect current society, let every 1 in 6 adverts show non white actors and the other 5 white.
Diversity requires equality.

Diversity does not require equality. It requires equity.

How can you have equity without equality?

If we take the example of access, it's easy to explain. A shop with steps going up to the entrance treats everyone equally; that is, all users need to go up the steps. If they replace the steps with a ramp, they still treat everyone equally, only now, they are also treating people equitably. Wheelchair and zimmer frame users can get up the ramp, as well as more able-bodied customers.

What if, however, there is no room for a ramp? They can leave the steps in place, but offer an alternative. People who can't manage the steps can go round to the delivery enterance, where there is a small lift.

Now, the customers who cannot manage the steps are treated unequally, but equitably.