FILUMS ..to see.

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Re: FILUMS ..to see.

Postby peetee » 14 Oct 2020, 3:35pm

mercalia wrote:I was given last week end the set of Marvel Avenger films ( Assembly, Ultron, Infinity Wars , Endgame) and was expecting a great view. What a let down, the relentless action sequences did my head in ( does any one really folow the details of them) and the characters I couldnt really care less about. Thanos should have won and did all the Avengers in is my take, would have done us all a favour


Yep. I used to like the Marvel franchise. Apart from the entertainment it was one of the things I could actually enjoy watching and discuss with mutual interest with my teenage son.
I think the whole concept has fallen foul of it’s own success and it’s need to be bigger, better and more showy than its last creation. The action scenes have now got so frenetic they have become an unwatchable mess of 2nd rate CGI.
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Re: FILUMS ..to see.

Postby pwa » 14 Oct 2020, 4:09pm

peetee wrote:
mercalia wrote:I was given last week end the set of Marvel Avenger films ( Assembly, Ultron, Infinity Wars , Endgame) and was expecting a great view. What a let down, the relentless action sequences did my head in ( does any one really folow the details of them) and the characters I couldnt really care less about. Thanos should have won and did all the Avengers in is my take, would have done us all a favour


Yep. I used to like the Marvel franchise. Apart from the entertainment it was one of the things I could actually enjoy watching and discuss with mutual interest with my teenage son.
I think the whole concept has fallen foul of it’s own success and it’s need to be bigger, better and more showy than its last creation. The action scenes have now got so frenetic they have become an unwatchable mess of 2nd rate CGI.

I felt the same way about Peter Jackson's "Hobbit" trilogy. The book is a fairly compact story with a lot of charm. A kids' book, of course, but a good one. The films should have been one instead of three, and the "action" in the films was farcically overblown. In the book the action is realistic, or as realistic as you can get with elves, dwarves and dragons inhabiting the place. The characters move through the landscape like you and I would, slipping in mud, tripping up and catching their clothes on brambles. In the films it becomes like one of those daft martial arts things on steroids. And the seemingly endless noisy orchestral racket! I just felt tired and weary waiting for it to end.

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Re: FILUMS ..to see.

Postby mercalia » 14 Oct 2020, 6:18pm

pwa wrote:
peetee wrote:
mercalia wrote:I was given last week end the set of Marvel Avenger films ( Assembly, Ultron, Infinity Wars , Endgame) and was expecting a great view. What a let down, the relentless action sequences did my head in ( does any one really folow the details of them) and the characters I couldnt really care less about. Thanos should have won and did all the Avengers in is my take, would have done us all a favour


Yep. I used to like the Marvel franchise. Apart from the entertainment it was one of the things I could actually enjoy watching and discuss with mutual interest with my teenage son.
I think the whole concept has fallen foul of it’s own success and it’s need to be bigger, better and more showy than its last creation. The action scenes have now got so frenetic they have become an unwatchable mess of 2nd rate CGI.

I felt the same way about Peter Jackson's "Hobbit" trilogy. The book is a fairly compact story with a lot of charm. A kids' book, of course, but a good one. The films should have been one instead of three, and the "action" in the films was farcically overblown. In the book the action is realistic, or as realistic as you can get with elves, dwarves and dragons inhabiting the place. The characters move through the landscape like you and I would, slipping in mud, tripping up and catching their clothes on brambles. In the films it becomes like one of those daft martial arts things on steroids. And the seemingly endless noisy orchestral racket! I just felt tired and weary waiting for it to end.



so true of many action films, they seem to deliver knockout punches time and time again and the other side just gets up and does the same. When did all this fantasy start?

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Re: FILUMS ..to see.

Postby kwackers » 14 Oct 2020, 6:46pm

mercalia wrote:so true of many action films, they seem to deliver knockout punches time and time again and the other side just gets up and does the same. When did all this fantasy start?

With CGI.
It's just reached an insane level of silliness now, drives me daft.


Watched "Jo Jo Rabbit" the other day which I thought was excellent.

Also re-watched "Spaced", "Green Wing" and "Black Books" - still excellent especially Green Wing.

I notice someone has redone "Utopia" which originally was a Ch4(?) series, off the wall and excellent imo.
Not sure if I can bring myself to watch a remake but perhaps I should give it a go...

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Re: FILUMS ..to see.

Postby simonineaston » 14 Oct 2020, 7:16pm

BTW - what exactly counts as a film, these days? I mean, The Wire, or to a lesser extent, The Sopranos, was much more gripping than the average feature film, due to the scope, breadth, etc etc, allowing far more access to entertaining plot and character development. Now, after the advent of the 'mini-series', feature-length films seem almost fleeting - insubstantial... I enjoyed Better Call Saul, too. And The Night Manager. And boy did I learn a lot of history watching Band Of Brothers - and to a lesser extent, Generation X.
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Re: FILUMS ..to see.

Postby peetee » 14 Oct 2020, 7:33pm

Quality CGI can make for immensely rewarding viewing. Gravity was a stunning movie and I wish I had seen it on the big screen.
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Re: FILUMS ..to see.

Postby mercalia » 14 Oct 2020, 7:34pm

kwackers wrote:
mercalia wrote:so true of many action films, they seem to deliver knockout punches time and time again and the other side just gets up and does the same. When did all this fantasy start?

With CGI.
It's just reached an insane level of silliness now, drives me daft.


Watched "Jo Jo Rabbit" the other day which I thought was excellent.

Also re-watched "Spaced", "Green Wing" and "Black Books" - still excellent especially Green Wing.

I notice someone has redone "Utopia" which originally was a Ch4(?) series, off the wall and excellent imo.
Not sure if I can bring myself to watch a remake but perhaps I should give it a go...


I just finished watching the remake of Utopia that as you would expect from a yank production is probably more polished. I had never seen the original UK version but it prompted me to get the DVDs from CEX - not many copies around I think for sale any way.( £2 season 1 £3.50 season 2) I have yet to watch it. The new version has it when the bodies drop they stay dropped and there are lots of them, even from the start. Worth a look.



Good for those of a conspiracy theory cast of mind with the current covid problem. maybe you dont want to have the vaccine when they bring it out........


Another good series is The Boys about money and super heroes, from Amazon. There are 2 seasons at the moment.


not for those of a polite disposition. Probably one of the best Adult shows around.