djnotts wrote:Well.....Doro Pesch is German and that's good enough for me to insert (sic) love in the Subject line.
Who is Doro Pesch?
djnotts wrote:Well.....Doro Pesch is German and that's good enough for me to insert (sic) love in the Subject line.
djnotts wrote:Now the most beautiful over 50 in the world! A stunner when younger....chose any from youtube...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-so6LhNRG8
Cyril Haearn wrote:djnotts wrote:Now the most beautiful over 50 in the world! A stunner when younger....chose any from youtube...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-so6LhNRG8
Auf nach Wacken!
reohn2 wrote:Freddie wrote:reohn2, bad understanding of what I'm saying.Here we go with the 'hold our opinions, or you must be a bigot' stuff. I have made it clear I am not particularly concerned with the feelings of individuals for and against these things, whether that be homosexual marriage or polygamy...wait a minute, I take it you have changed your mind on polygamy. Just a few posts ago you were saying that the law on polygamy should remain the same, now you have changed your position?reohn2 wrote:Open,homosexual or polygamous marriage is no more dangerous to the openminded individual than conventional marriage.
IMO your close pass analogy is a bad one for the reasons given.
I'm not saying you're a bigot at all.
I'm saying attitudes change and it's your prerogative to have and hold your opinion from your view point,I respect that,I dont think the Christian church should be made to marry homosexuals or anyone who wishes to change the vows as laid down within the church's tenets,but you can't impose those laws on the rest of what is a secular society and which includes other religions with differing religious laws to yours,especially if the secular law says otherwise.
There's no law against homosexual marriage, and if people marrying agree to an 'open' marriage from the outset ie; in their vows,there's no law against that either.
And I've explained my position on polygamy clearly in that,it doesn't suit mine and Mrs R2's lifestyle but if it suites other people's,then I've no objection to it,providing it's within the secular law.
I can't be any clearer on these issues!I am concerned with the institution of marriage. If, like anything else, it means anything and everything, then it also means nothing. I think there should be boundaries; you, presumably, think anything can constitute a marriage (you have moved in the space of a few posts from being against polygamy to being in favour; at least you were paying attention when I said if you say we 'shouldn't judge', then you must suspend all judgement), others are 100% unconcerned with the vows they took.
Excuse me for thinking I am alone as the only one in this thread so far who wants to defend marriage as an institution, by keeping it defineable, respectable (and respected) and to some extent immutable (it must be monogamous). If it is undefined and non-monogamous then, in the context of the western world at least, I hardly think it can be continue being respectable and respected.
Where to start
IMO because marriage isn't the exclusive possession of religion it can be changed to suit the individuals involved,as I've posted before your definition of marriage isn't everyone's much as you wish it to be.I can't be anymore clear,if you disagree then we'll have to leave it at that because of our differences.I think we have been pretty civil so far...John1054 wrote:Please argue nicely - remember the Forum is open to all (ages and beliefs).
Agreed.Sorry, maybe we could ask the mods to split the digression off into its own thread?Cyril Haearn wrote:Is there any way I might get them to write about Germany?
Agreed again.though AFAIC I've said all I wish to on the subject I think
mercalia wrote:seems like German luftwaffe has only 4 operational jets
"The German air force only has four Eurofighter jets which could be deployed in the event of an emergency, meaning the country cannot fulfil its Nato obligations, Spiegel reported on Wednesday."
seems like there is a fault and
"A special seal is required to hold the liquid inside. But the company that produced the seal was sold off without the supplier informing the German Defence Ministry.A special seal is required to hold the liquid inside. But the company that produced the seal was sold off without the supplier informing the German Defence Ministry."
seem to have the "british disease"?
https://www.thelocal.de/20180502/german-luftwaffe-only-has-four-operation-ready-eurofighter-jets-report
djnotts wrote:Well.....Doro Pesch is German and that's good enough for me to insert (sic) love in the Subject line.