I think it was the Guardian's job to explore that.
I think it's a strange thing for the Guardian to write about. It must have bee n a slow news day. And being the Guardian, they should have made metion of which one is better for the environment.
“In some ways, it is easier to be a dissident, for then one is without responsibility.” ― Nelson Mandela, Long Walk to Freedom
Cyril Haearn wrote:I read about someone who moved into a leafy suburb in the US She hung her washing out in the garden A neighbor asked her not to do that cos people might think she could not afford a dryer and the reputation of the section and property prices would suffer
Some places in the USA, it's actually illegal to hang the washing out. These are usually community ordinances, housing association rules, or bans from community groups. When challenged, they are usually proven to be illegal or unenforceable, but laws/regulations like this have kept people from drying laundry naturally for decades.
landsurfer wrote:I've been a long term reader of the Telegraph... until .... i started to have to pay for it .... and pay for it, and pay for it. Read the headlines in the Telegraph ... the first paragraph usually lets you know where the article is going .. then i pop over to the Grauniad and see what their take is of the same articles ... No surprise on their wishy washy support for SC in her fight against Pakistani Men abusing young white girls ... but is is good to see the other take ... for free ... You know the Grauniad will kiss up to Jeremy .... but still interesting articles ...
Are you reading the right Guardian? They spent a year desperately trying to smear him in any way possible.
landsurfer wrote:I've been a long term reader of the Telegraph... until .... i started to have to pay for it .... and pay for it, and pay for it. Read the headlines in the Telegraph ... the first paragraph usually lets you know where the article is going .. then i pop over to the Grauniad and see what their take is of the same articles ... No surprise on their wishy washy support for SC in her fight against Pakistani Men abusing young white girls ... but is is good to see the other take ... for free ... You know the Grauniad will kiss up to Jeremy .... but still interesting articles ...
Are you reading the right Guardian? They spent a year desperately trying to smear him in any way possible.
“Quiet, calm deliberation disentangles every knot.”
Be more Mike.
The road goes on forever.
Could we stay with dish washers and tumble dryers?
When the pestilence strikes from the East, go far and breathe the cold air deeply. Ignore the sage, stay not indoors. Ho Ri Zon 12th Century Chinese philosopher
horizon wrote:Could we stay with dish washers and tumble dryers?
Good point well made .... I like the idea of getting rid of the dishwasher and putting extra cupboards in ..... But the tumble drier ..... You will only prise it from my blood stained hands ........
“Quiet, calm deliberation disentangles every knot.”
Be more Mike.
The road goes on forever.
If we had space I'd have both. I hate to see dirty pots in the kitchen so I'm constantly washing up.Load a dishwasher throughout the day the put it on just before bed and jobs a good un. Tumble dryers make sense in the UK if you have kids especially through Winter.Our washing machine never seems to stop and drying clothes indoors is a pain.
I can see little value in either. When I bough my first flat I bought a washing machine / dryer combined as I percieved hanging up washing would be a nuisance. Only used it on dryer mode about once. Having once rented a holiday home with a dishwasher I discovered they didn't actually clean curry pans and the like but had stripped the pattern off the plates. In another holiday cottage my companions had put my good knife in the dishwasher damaging it. By the time you've buttocked about filling the thing, swilling the muck off, and having several sets of stuff you may as well have just done the washing up. And if you have good quality knives or copper saucepans the dishwasher will damage them. My current house came with a dryer and a dishwasher - I dumped both as useless nuisances
My parents have had dishwashers and dryers for decades now. The dishwasher gets used but the dryer very rarely. Reason?
The dishwasher works well (including their expensive kitchen knives and copper bottomed pots), saves energy, saves time and saves water.
The dryer was always expensive to run, needed venting to the outside (pipe shoved out the open door) and generally took a long time to get everything dry. In summer you'd often get clothes dried outside quicker. At the.moment their latest dryer is in the garage unplugged waiting until the.need for it arises. Probably not used this past year.
This experience will colour my view if we ever decide one of these machines is worth getting. I'd have the dishwasher right now. My partner cooks with every dish, pan, cutlery and cooking spoon we own! Whoever cooks doesn't do the dishes so you can see why dishwasher is attractive. PS I can cook but being the first out and last home it's all done before I get the chance. The issue isn't money just space in a small kitchen.
We've got both and only use the tumble dryer when we have long periods of wet weather. The dish washer is used everyday and we bought a new one within a day when the old one died. The kitchen looks tidier and I don't think our water and electricity bills are higher than if we'd done a number washes the old fashioned way.