It is earnestly to be hoped - we love the Manchester Guardian / the Independent!

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Re: It is earnestly to be hoped - we love the Guardian / the Independent!

Postby 661-Pete » 7 Aug 2019, 8:48am

Could we possibly drop the "Manchester" from the thread title please? After all the paper hasn't been called that since 1959.

I ask this mainly because a guy I used to know (and whom I heartily disliked) used to always refer to the paper by its former name, disparagingly - especially whenever he spotted me holding a copy (he was probably a DM reader himself...).

On the other hand, I'm perfectly happy with calling it the Grauniad. Indeed I often do so myself. It's a term of endearment.
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Re: It is earnestly to be hoped - we love the Grauniad / the Independent!

Postby 661-Pete » 7 Aug 2019, 9:22am

I've just done something I thought I'd never do. Oh the shame! :oops: :oops: :oops:

I've subscribed to a paywall....

In mitigation, I must explain that it's to the Washington Post. Now that's a media that I do care to take seriously now and again, alongside the Grauniad and the Indy. And it's only a dollar for the first month. I wanted to see what they have to say about the appalling gun crime situation, over there...

I'll see if they let me cancel easily, once I get bored with reading...
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Re: It is earnestly to be hoped - we love the Grauniad / the Independent!

Postby brynpoeth » 9 Sep 2019, 5:56am

661-Pete wrote:I've just done something I thought I'd never do. Oh the shame! :oops: :oops: :oops:

I've subscribed to a paywall....

In mitigation, I must explain that it's to the Washington Post. Now that's a media that I do care to take seriously now and again, alongside the Grauniad and the Indy. And it's only a dollar for the first month. I wanted to see what they have to say about the appalling gun crime situation, over there...

I'll see if they let me cancel easily, once I get bored with reading...

What did it say about gun crime?
I worked for an amirican firm in Old Europe, we were warned about gun crime, had to explain that it is very rare over here
Trumpland is huge, is gun crime actually quite rare over there, statistically?
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The Grauniad has upgraded to clickbaiting, recently read of someone who vanquished a crocodile, and about killer algae on the French coast (smells perfectly disgusting)
The Life&Style section is particularly strange, bet I could learn some things I dinnae want to learn there :wink:
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Re: It is earnestly to be hoped - we love the Manchester Guardian / the Independent!

Postby Tangled Metal » 16 Sep 2019, 10:20am

Just been reading grauniad business life page. Is it becoming the latest tabloid?

Biggest spike in oil price in history headline subtitle. Further down it's got the caveat (since the 80s). So it's not the biggest spike in history then.

Still I guess it could drive up fuel prices I suppose. If I win three duel will I get a discount? I choose good old unarmed combat. I'll waiver the to the death part if you don't mind!

This is a split post between not liking the tabloid style spin but liking the spelling mistake. After reading the rubbish attention seeking headline the spelling mistake reminded me why the grauniad has its own character that's special. :D

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Re: It is earnestly to be hoped - we love the Manchester Guardian / the Independent!

Postby brynpoeth » 16 Oct 2019, 6:45pm

The Manchester Grauniad knows that I have read more than 200 articles in the last month and asks for a small financial contribution
Should I pay?

Must have bought the printed newspaper a thousand times back then on paper :wink:
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Re: It is earnestly to be hoped - we love the Manchester Guardian / the Independent!

Postby brynpoeth » 20 Dec 2019, 7:15pm

The Grauniad invites me to sign in to continue reading for free, what does this mean?
I am reluctant to comply
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Re: It is earnestly to be hoped - we love the Manchester Guardian / the Independent!

Postby D363 » 20 Dec 2019, 8:45pm

Tangled Metal wrote:After reading the rubbish attention seeking headline the spelling mistake reminded me why the grauniad has its own character that's special. :D


In fact the reputation for 'special character' based on proofing errors is nothing more than metropolitan parochialism, ironically enough. A legacy from the days when it was printed in Manchester and the copies transported south didn't have time for typesetting errors to be corrected.

Now it's at every bit as metropolitan (with a fair amount of transatlantic and to a lesser extent transpacific clickbait thrown in) as any other publication or broadcaster, and it's more or less inconceivable that a national newspaper could be based in Manchester. It also publishes a goodly number of commentators who ponder the conundrum of the British left's apparent withering everywhere outside London.

Possibly the above is mentioned upthread, I haven't read through it. Seems topical atm.

Edit: I stopped buying it about 12 years ago, except occasionally for the crossword. Now I'm a smartphone zombie it stalks me and I get suckered in every now and then, which is to say several times a day usually!

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Re: It is earnestly to be hoped - we love the Manchester Guardian / the Independent!

Postby mercalia » 23 Dec 2019, 8:55am

I assume the Mancester Guardian is justy the Guardian?

well here is a summary of the various hi-tech inventigations they have done recently in Silicon Valley


The Dark Side of Silicon Valley

Since we opened our west coast bureau in 2016, we’ve worked to expose the truth about how tech companies are reshaping society and democracy

The evils of Faeces Book, Google and Amazon

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/dec/19/dark-side-of-tech-silicon-valley-guardian?utm_term=RWRpdG9yaWFsX0d1YXJkaWFuVG9kYXlVS19XZWVrZGF5cy0xOTEyMjM%3D&utm_source=esp&utm_medium=Email&CMP=GTUK_email&utm_campaign=GuardianTodayUK


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