Vorpal wrote:meic wrote:(You can turn it off, ditto windows updates)
I thought that we could no longer turn off our Window's updates on Windows 10.
There's software for that
really? tell ?
Vorpal wrote:meic wrote:(You can turn it off, ditto windows updates)
I thought that we could no longer turn off our Window's updates on Windows 10.
There's software for that
[XAP]Bob wrote:Last RedmondOS machine I built I set it doing updates... 4 hours later it proclaimed itself happy, so I turned it off and went to bed. The next morning I opened it and it had 187 updates waiting (several hours later...)
mercalia wrote:Vorpal wrote:meic wrote:I thought that we could no longer turn off our Window's updates on Windows 10.
There's software for that
really? tell ?
Vorpal wrote:mercalia wrote:Vorpal wrote:There's software for that
really? tell ?
I'll have a little look later & see if I can find a Windows 10 version of my software.
kwackers wrote:[XAP]Bob wrote:Last RedmondOS machine I built I set it doing updates... 4 hours later it proclaimed itself happy, so I turned it off and went to bed. The next morning I opened it and it had 187 updates waiting (several hours later...)
That usually only happens if you have an old version of the install for the OS. It installs the version you have and then applies several patches.
Macs can do this too depending on what you need to update.
If your OS version is old it's usually better to patch the install disk. If that's up to date then you rarely have many issues.
Vorpal wrote:Vorpal wrote:mercalia wrote:really? tell ?
I'll have a little look later & see if I can find a Windows 10 version of my software.
http://www.thewindowsclub.com/gwx-contr ... 10-upgrade
[XAP]Bob wrote:There is no excuse for declaring yourself happy and then deciding you need 187 updates after a reboot. You should either know that you need them, or not need them.
However far I’ve ever updated other OS I’ve never had one lie that badly about the state of updates.
mercalia wrote:Vorpal wrote:Vorpal wrote:
I'll have a little look later & see if I can find a Windows 10 version of my software.
http://www.thewindowsclub.com/gwx-contr ... 10-upgrade
I think that MS have stopped trying to push windows 10 onto windows 8 users now ( some time ago) so the gmx thing not needed. And one reason I have kept windows 8.1 on my desktops is that you can turn off updates if you want - I used to have that gmx thing and destalled that long time ago.
kwackers wrote:[XAP]Bob wrote:There is no excuse for declaring yourself happy and then deciding you need 187 updates after a reboot. You should either know that you need them, or not need them.
However far I’ve ever updated other OS I’ve never had one lie that badly about the state of updates.
When you create a patch you choose the version you want to patch from and to. After a while there are simply too many permutations, so you allow incremental updates.
Each of those 'increments' applies itself and "declares itself happy" - except of course until the next update round comes along and discovers there's an update for that version too.
The mac does exactly the same, perhaps it hides it better. Personally I take no notice.
FWIW most of windows 'updates' are single file changes rather than an actual patch. I've no idea why MS enumerate them the way they do, obviously they should simply bundle them together as a 'single' update to keep the users happy. I'm guessing someone at Richmond thinks users like to see big numbers for updates because they think they're getting value for money or something (I've been in those meetings...)
[XAP]Bob wrote:Windows update ran and said “I’m done”, I let it check for new updates and it said “Nope, definitely done”.
I rebooted and it changed its mind - that is what I object to... not only did it lie, it was barely half way through... Good thing I didn’t need to use the computer the next day...
bigjim wrote:I don't know what people on here are talking about once they get into technicalities.
However my wife and I both use Dell d520 laptops. I imagine they are pretty ancient, well over 10 years old. Bought secondhand. They both run windows 8. I also have about three spare machines for spares. I have changed batteries, keyboards, hard drives, memory and screens when needed. I usually pay about £35 for a working 520 ebay machine with something missing. They are fine for what we need. Just surfing and storing and editing pics and online banking.
They are pretty slow on startup and Firefox is also agonisingly slow to startup. However I'm not usually in that much of a hurry.
kwackers wrote:[XAP]Bob wrote:Windows update ran and said “I’m done”, I let it check for new updates and it said “Nope, definitely done”.
I rebooted and it changed its mind - that is what I object to... not only did it lie, it was barely half way through... Good thing I didn’t need to use the computer the next day...
This is why I always patch the install disk, or download the latest version.
I'm sure it can be a pain, but then installing any OS is a pain (linnux is probably one of the easier ones).
If its any consolation if I want to run OSX on my mac I have to plug in my backup hard drive. The last update I did killed the version on my computer so now it'll only boot windows! (Amusingly).
I'd reinstall it but don't want to risk killing windows too.