thirdcrank wrote:Another thing that the Founding Fathers might not have anticipated was the way the growth of political parties has influenced the operation of the US Constitution. The judgment of an impeachment trial isn't improved by being made along party lines.
Strengthening of parties into being the main thing people vote for rather than loose collections of individuals is what is breaking our own system as well. But the party toothpaste ain't going back in the tube so we can't really do much about them other than to adapt the system to cope.
Pebble wrote: He got something like 70 million votes, more people voted for trump than for any other president ever (Biden won but many of his votes were not for him, they were anti trump)
The support for trump is like nothing ever seen before, and they are very very loyal.
I'm not sure that's the case, many of the trump votes were 'anti clinton' and/or 'anti socialist/communist'. Sure there's a significant minority that are very loyal to trump and very vocal about it but I'm not convinced anywhere close to all 70m are. Probably some polling about on this somewhere but don't have time to look, however I suspect it is similar to here (both with parties and also issues like brexit) in that the echo chambers of social media make people in them believe that the population is on average far more attentive, interested and invested in politics and current affairs and generally hold more extreme views than is actually the case.