cb radio does it still exist?

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cb radio does it still exist?

Postby mercalia » 27 Jan 2018, 8:57pm

does any one do this any more? cant say I have seen any rigs for sale.

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Re: cb radio does it still exist?

Postby Paulatic » 27 Jan 2018, 9:38pm

Take a look on EBay
Looks like CB still in existence
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Re: cb radio does it still exist?

Postby Mick F » 28 Jan 2018, 9:08am

CB radio = Citizens' Band Radio ............ and is a US term.
When it was legalised in UK, it was called something else. Open Channel(?) or something similar.

Trouble is, as in most things, US words and sayings take over. :oops:
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Re: cb radio does it still exist?

Postby [XAP]Bob » 28 Jan 2018, 9:38am

Yes, I know a couple of hams, and see a few more aerials around as well
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Re: cb radio does it still exist?

Postby kwackers » 28 Jan 2018, 10:32am

[XAP]Bob wrote:Yes, I know a couple of hams, and see a few more aerials around as well

Ooo... "cb" & "ham" mentioned in the same context. I'd keep quiet about that... ;)

I'm not sure that it has ever been called anything other than "CB" in the UK. I played with it for a while when it was illegal and lost interest in it when they legalised it.
Mind you I'd been building radio transmitters for years prior to that. Even had my own "pirate" radio station - although with probably about 5 milliwatts of power on medium wave through a bit of wire I suspect my audience was probably pretty restricted.

I converted to ham radio shortly after and have a G0 callsign although I rarely use that either. I haven't set my gear up since I moved otherwise I'd have a quick listen to see if there's anyone on CB (last time I listened several years ago there was a reasonable amount of activity).

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Re: cb radio does it still exist?

Postby 661-Pete » 28 Jan 2018, 10:36am

I wonder, if anyone is confusing CB with Amateur Radio (Radio Hams - as famously portrayed in Hancock's Half-Hour)? The former used to be illegal in the UK, but the latter has always been legal - provided you passed the RAE test. A classmate of mine at school was a dab hand at the hobby - he once held a demonstration for us. I don't know what's in the RAE nowadays, but in those days -.-- --- ..- / -. . . -.. . -.. / - --- / .--. .- ... ... / .- / -- --- .-. ... . / - . ... - :)

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Re: cb radio does it still exist?

Postby cyclemad » 28 Jan 2018, 11:11am

CB was legalised in the UK IN 1981 on 27mhz FM with a maximum power output of 4watts and antenna of 1.5m max height ( you could out this on a 20' pole but the antenna could only be 1.5m )

I had one for years and eventually went totally illegal with an SSB Transceiver ( single side band ) coupled up to a 2kw linear transmitter amplifier and a full wave YAGI BEAM antenna on a rotator affixed to a 20 foot mast in the back garden I had the advantage of living at the time on a family farm up a dirt track behind several locked gates so would have plenty of warning if the DTI came creeping around to try and locate me...
The only issue was that I completely blacked out all the TV'S in the local village ...and the phone would be red hot particularly around coronation street being aired as they all knew who was responsible....

As the years wore on and internet became increasingly popular and accessible to the masses the radio kit was put away in the attic and the kit fro the car was removed :(

I still have the radios in the attic somewhere and masses of cables ......it was really enjoyable at the time. It was the pre courser to facebook and social media and was a real thrill when you made contact with someone at the other side of the world while sat in your car up on a bleak hillside at 3am

Nowadays I just turn Skype on an hey presto HD Pics of family around the world !!

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Re: cb radio does it still exist?

Postby Mick F » 28 Jan 2018, 11:51am

kwackers wrote:
[XAP]Bob wrote:Yes, I know a couple of hams, and see a few more aerials around as well

Ooo... "cb" & "ham" mentioned in the same context. I'd keep quiet about that... ;)

I'm not sure that it has ever been called anything other than "CB" in the UK.


Radio hams are very different to CB enthusiasts. Please don't confuse the two. :shock:

CB radio was called something different, I can assure you. I must look it up.
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Re: cb radio does it still exist?

Postby Mick F » 28 Jan 2018, 11:55am

From Wiki
C.B. Radio was first introduced into the United Kingdom around 1972. Early use was known around the airports in the UK, particularly Stansted in 1973. As citizens band radio has been advertised in the US since before 1962, it is possible that a number of these radios were brought into the UK and used illegally. In the period 1976–1978, C.B. radio in Britain was much popularised by novelty hit songs and its use in the film Convoy and the usage of illegal C.B. radio peaked in 1980. Companies in Britain sold US equipment quite openly, and equipment was readily available in car accessory shops. During this time, a great many C.B. clubs emerged in the UK and they became centres of protest in the march towards legalisation, in the hope that existing equipment could be used legally. In response to this, the government commissioned a white paper proposing a C.B. service called "Open Channel" around 860 MHz.
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Re: cb radio does it still exist?

Postby mercalia » 28 Jan 2018, 12:29pm

[XAP]Bob wrote:Yes, I know a couple of hams, and see a few more aerials around as well

i dont think they are the same - ham radio were ther amateurs who need to pass tests, once upon time incl morse ( but not now ) - my dad was one; cb is the pay £10 for a licence and there you go no training needed? ham radio used sets that can access "repeaters" around he country to extend the range of reception, where as cb was purely local?

ham radio is still alive i think. but what about cb?

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Re: cb radio does it still exist?

Postby thirdcrank » 28 Jan 2018, 12:48pm

Whatever the govt., proposed, I see that "open channel" is a drainage term, another being "pipe-flow."

There is an open channel website which says "Welcome to the Open Channel website for CB and Amateur Radio in the UK."

http://www.m0ysu.com/

It tries to bring "CB'ers" and hams together:

In an effort to bring Amateur Radio to the attention of some of the CB'ers who are looking for something more than just CB this section has been put together for you.


Re the thread title, I see that that site runs a CB Radio museum.

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Re: cb radio does it still exist?

Postby kwackers » 28 Jan 2018, 2:11pm

Mick F wrote:From Wiki
"white paper proposing a C.B. service called "Open Channel" around 860 MHz.

Yeah but that's just the white paper name and also it discussed putting it on 860mhz.
As far as I know the name "CB radio" applied for the 27mhz FM stuff we ended up with, I've had a look but cant find anything that says differently.

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Re: cb radio does it still exist?

Postby Pastychomper » 29 Jan 2018, 1:38pm

FWIW ham radio has had a boost in the last few years from eastern companies selling very cheap but ok-specced portable rigs. I wouldn't be surprised if the price of CB has come down for similar reasons, on the other hand I wonder if the cheaper ham rigs and somewhat easier exams are enticing some away from CB.
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Re: cb radio does it still exist?

Postby yakdiver » 29 Jan 2018, 3:04pm

I had one while living in Aussie I was Osprey
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Re: cb radio does it still exist?

Postby PH » 29 Jan 2018, 4:46pm

Mick F wrote:From Wiki
C.B. Radio was first introduced into the United Kingdom around 1972. Early use was known around the airports in the UK, particularly Stansted in 1973. As citizens band radio has been advertised in the US since before 1962, it is possible that a number of these radios were brought into the UK and used illegally. In the period 1976–1978, C.B. radio in Britain was much popularised by novelty hit songs and its use in the film Convoy and the usage of illegal C.B. radio peaked in 1980. Companies in Britain sold US equipment quite openly, and equipment was readily available in car accessory shops. During this time, a great many C.B. clubs emerged in the UK and they became centres of protest in the march towards legalisation, in the hope that existing equipment could be used legally. In response to this, the government commissioned a white paper proposing a C.B. service called "Open Channel" around 860 MHz.


You have to remember what an authoritarian government we were living under, they really didn't want to give in to all those oiks using illegal US equipment. In the end they gave in on most points, but out of what looks like spite insisted on a slightly different frequency making all the illegal kit obsolete. The legislation required that the equipment be marked CB 27/81 (Citizens' Band 27MHz 1981)