Have Britain’s imperial fantasies given us Brexit??

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Have Britain’s imperial fantasies given us Brexit?

Poll ended at 10 Feb 2018, 9:07pm

Yes
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No
9
23%
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Total votes: 40

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Re: Have Britain’s imperial fantasies given us Brexit??

Postby 661-Pete » 5 Feb 2018, 4:48pm

pwa wrote:Mercalia was saying that it was part of pete's "bubble of fatasies" that..... etc. etc. etc.
Which part of "Some of us vote according to our principles" did you not understand?
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Re: Have Britain’s imperial fantasies given us Brexit??

Postby pwa » 5 Feb 2018, 5:54pm

661-Pete wrote:
pwa wrote:Mercalia was saying that it was part of pete's "bubble of fatasies" that..... etc. etc. etc.
Which part of "Some of us vote according to our principles" did you not understand?

I understand that bit perfectly. I just think you missed the fact that Mercalia was denying having done otherwise, rather than admitting to it in the way that your carefully cropped quote implied. The bit you quoted was what he was saying you imagined him to think, not what he actually thinks.

To be honest I don't care which of you was right in your arguments, I just thought your mis-reading was funny. I do it myself sometimes, so I'm not pointing the finger too much.

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Re: Have Britain’s imperial fantasies given us Brexit??

Postby pete75 » 5 Feb 2018, 6:25pm

Mick F wrote:
pete75 wrote:
Mick F wrote:It's never been part of England, though the English think it is.

England = Angle Land as in angles and saxons = Anglo-Saxon.

As it happens, I'm Welsh.



People think it's part of England because it has been for about a thousand years.
King Athelstan set the boundary between England and Cornwall along the River Tamar a thousand years ago. I don't think that has changed.
Part of north Cornwall was given away as a dowery, and is now in England.

Talking of doweries, Shetland was loaned to Scotland by the King of Denmark, but the debt has never been settled. Therefore Shetland is Danish.


You've not seen this map have you Mick. It shows England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. Note the location of Cornwall.

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Re: Have Britain’s imperial fantasies given us Brexit??

Postby reohn2 » 5 Feb 2018, 8:33pm

To answer the OP's title post.
I reckon there was enough blinkered imperial fantasists who voted brexit in the referendum to do enough damage to ruin this country.
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Re: Have Britain’s imperial fantasies given us Brexit??

Postby Mick F » 6 Feb 2018, 8:40am

pete75 wrote:You've not seen this map have you Mick. It shows England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. Note the location of Cornwall.
You've not seen this map.
la-petita-cornualla-cerca-el-reconeixement-com-a-poble-i-lautonomia-politica-2.jpg
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Re: Have Britain’s imperial fantasies given us Brexit??

Postby pete75 » 6 Feb 2018, 8:47am

Mick F wrote:
pete75 wrote:You've not seen this map have you Mick. It shows England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. Note the location of Cornwall.
You've not seen this map.la-petita-cornualla-cerca-el-reconeixement-com-a-poble-i-lautonomia-politica-2.jpg


So someone has got their crayons out and done Cornwall in a different colour. Big deal.

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Re: Have Britain’s imperial fantasies given us Brexit??

Postby Mick F » 6 Feb 2018, 9:02am

:lol: :lol:
Maps are political. Depending on the political viewpoint, depends on how they are displayed.
They are not truth, just truth as you see it.
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Re: Have Britain’s imperial fantasies given us Brexit??

Postby Audax67 » 6 Feb 2018, 9:08am

The alternative being by ethnicity, which might raise a few more hackles...
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Re: Have Britain’s imperial fantasies given us Brexit??

Postby matt_twam_asi » 6 Feb 2018, 9:30am

Thanks Mick, for showing that Brexiters aren't living in a past dreamworld. :wink:

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Re: Have Britain’s imperial fantasies given us Brexit??

Postby rmurphy195 » 6 Feb 2018, 5:09pm

Rather, 52% of the voting population have had this fantasy stirred-up or planted by a lunatic, destructive party and its leader, supported by a couple of ambitious idiots whose very presence gave the whole damned idea undeserved credibility. These are the people who the day after the referendum seemed shocked at theier "victory" and were back-pedalling like mad.

How on earth the government - any government - is going to be able to unpick 40 odd years (is it 40?) of negotiating and horsetrading in 2 years is beyond me. Apart from losing (long-term, when we all change or minds) things like having our own currency instead of joining the Euro, not to mention the loss of valuable financial services.
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Re: Have Britain’s imperial fantasies given us Brexit??

Postby brynpoeth » 6 Feb 2018, 10:17pm

No need to be Cornish OR English, one can be both
I am Welsh+German+English, in that order :wink:
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Re: Have Britain’s imperial fantasies given us Brexit??

Postby pwa » 7 Feb 2018, 8:24am

Cornish is in England officially. There is no popular, serious campaign to change that. Just as there is no campaign for an independent Northumbria.

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Re: Have Britain’s imperial fantasies given us Brexit??

Postby Mick F » 7 Feb 2018, 9:03am

Officially by the English.
Not officially by the Cornish.

Some bedtime reading, but it's enough to send you to sleep before you've even got past the first page! :lol:
http://www.cornishstannaryparliament.co.uk
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Re: Have Britain’s imperial fantasies given us Brexit??

Postby pwa » 7 Feb 2018, 9:11am

Mick F wrote:Officially by the English.
Not officially by the Cornish.

Some bedtime reading, but it's enough to send you to sleep before you've even got past the first page! :lol:
http://www.cornishstannaryparliament.co.uk


I used to work with a bloke who banged on about independence for Kernow. Then over a few drinks one evening he admitted that he had been born in Surrey and his only connection with Cornwall was the five or six years he spent there in his childhood. But for him the independence thing was a joke, as it is for most people who go on about it. A bit of harmless banter to raise a smile.

More interesting are places like the Isle of man and the Channel Islands, not part of the UK. Officially.

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Re: Have Britain’s imperial fantasies given us Brexit??

Postby brynpoeth » 7 Feb 2018, 9:13am

Mick F wrote:Officially by the English.
Not officially by the Cornish.

Some bedtime reading, but it's enough to send you to sleep before you've even got past the first page! :lol:
http://www.cornishstannaryparliament.co.uk

That can't be right, it is in English!
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