Environment Secretary Michael Gove has accused Sheffield City Council of "environmental vandalism" and promised to do "anything required" to end its controversial tree-felling programme.
I was cycling past here this morning. Old A30 between Launceston and Okehampton. https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@50.65677 ... 312!8i6656 These are fairly large beech trees, and even larger now as this Google view is a few years old. Today, there are only buds on the branches and they look quite odd being pollarded like that.
I think they are wonderful. They are obviously loved and cherished, and looked after. Beech trees can get to be massive vertically as well as horizontally, they would take over the whole grass verge and swamp the nearby houses ................... and then they would be cut down.
................ as for Mr Gove. I wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw him.
Environment Secretary Michael Gove has accused Sheffield City Council of "environmental vandalism" and promised to do "anything required" to end its controversial tree-felling programme.
there are some really massive and I mean massive trees in London in a road in Stanmore, Canons Drive, where the houses are likewise massive ( I mean massive could house 30+ migrants in them ). They are truly a sight to behold and clearly loved by the rich people there. Next time I am up that way I will take some pictures as they are a wonder to behold.
It's so easy to get hold of the wrong end of the stick. For a moment, I thought that was about houses full of rich people with 30 migrants up the trees outside.
The confusion about Gove -v- Labour Council is that AFAIK, Sheffield entered into an outsourced road maintenance contract and the company then decided that the most cost-effective (most profitable for them?) way of fulfilling their contractual obligations would be by removing the trees.
Mick F wrote:We have issues with trees in Plymouth that have been removed to clear an area near Theatre Royal to make room for a statue. By all accounts, they'll be planting others to replace them.
I have a thing about trees: If they are deliberately planted in towns, they should be maintained - pruned/pollarded/looked after ............. not let go to take over the place. Have you been to Paris? All along the Champs Elises (sp?) the almond trees are pollarded, pruned, cleaned, and are delight to see.
We all like trees, and there are precious little of them nationally ............... but most of them in towns and villages are left to over-grow, block up the drains and guttering with their leaves, and be a menace to sunshine and views.
Trees, I'm happy with. Luv 'em to bits. We need more of them .................... but in the right place and looked after properly too. If they over-grow, they become too big and have to be felled.
Who will be commemorated by the statue?
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gnvqsos wrote:I will make a comment about Sheffield trees.We have loads here and the numbers being removed are in low numbers.Many protesters do not live near the trees being cut down nand none appear to consult "us locals" for our viewpoint.The broad consensus is that many trees need attention and a few removed due to instability.The polarisation which has ensued has hardened the attitude of the authorities who will make their point by cutting down even more trees,rendering the action of the green element counterproductive.This element seem to have plenty of free time tom waste on protests and have alienated people going about their business,slowing down cars . .. . .
Slowing down motors, I am all for that
Entertainer, juvenile, curmudgeon, PoB, 30120 Cycling-of course, but it is far better on a Gillott We love safety cameras, we hate bullies
Mick F wrote:We have issues with trees in Plymouth that have been removed to clear an area near Theatre Royal to make room for a statue. By all accounts, they'll be planting others to replace them.
I have a thing about trees: If they are deliberately planted in towns, they should be maintained - pruned/pollarded/looked after ............. not let go to take over the place. Have you been to Paris? All along the Champs Elises (sp?) the almond trees are pollarded, pruned, cleaned, and are delight to see.
We all like trees, and there are precious little of them nationally ............... but most of them in towns and villages are left to over-grow, block up the drains and guttering with their leaves, and be a menace to sunshine and views.
Trees, I'm happy with. Luv 'em to bits. We need more of them .................... but in the right place and looked after properly too. If they over-grow, they become too big and have to be felled.
Who will be commemorated by the statue?
I read about the hoo-ha in the Western Morning News last week about the trees. First I'd heard about it. A quick Google brings this up and for what it's worth, I think it's an awfully ugly monstrosity. https://www.theatreroyal.com/news-and-b ... sculpture/
There were a series of Canadian Maple trees along the road that were set up as a memorial by the Canadian Government to recognise the large presence in the area in WW1 and WW2 and in memory of all those who went on to lose their lives and are buried locally.
However despite being 6 feet back from the road, they were deemed a danger to motorists and cut down and replanted further back.
All that is left is a stump!
Which reads:
IN REMEMBRANCE
THIS PLAQUE IS MOUNTED ON THE BUTT OF A SYCAMORE WHICH FORMED PART OF AN AVENUE OF TREES ALONG THE A3, PLANTED TO COMMEMORATE CANADIAN SERVICEMEN WHO WERE TRAINED LOCALLY AND DIED AT BRAMSHOTT DURING THE FIRST AND SECOND WORLD WARS, THE 418 MEN WHO GAVE THEIR LIVES IN THE FIRST WORLD WAR ARE BURIED IN CHURCHYARDS AT BRAMSHOTT AND GRAYSHOTT, THOSE WHO DIED IN THE SECOND WORLD WAR WERE LAID TO REST AT BROOKWOOD MILITARY CEMETERY, SURREY.
THE ORIGINAL AVENUE WAS REMOVED AS IT WAS BECOMING A DANGER TO THE TRAVELLING PUBLIC AND WAS REPLACED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTS HIGHWAYS AGENCY WITH AN AVENUE OF MAPLES IMPORTED DIRECTLY FROM CANADA AS A CONTINUED MEMORIAL TO THOSE WHO GAVE THEIR LIVES IN DEFENCE OF FREEDOM
THE LAST OF THE CANADIAN MAPLES WERE PLANTED BY THE RIGHT HONORABLE MR. ROYCE FRITH Q.C. HIGH COMMISSIONER FOR CANADA MR JOHN WATTS M.P. MINISTER OF STATE FOR RAILWAYS AND ROADS AND VISITING REPRESENTATIVES OF THE CANADIAN VETERANS ASSOCIATION AND ROYAL BRITISH LEGION ON "CANADA SUNDAY" 25TH JUNE 1995
Mick F wrote:We have issues with trees in Plymouth that have been removed to clear an area near Theatre Royal to make room for a statue. By all accounts, they'll be planting others to replace them.
I have a thing about trees: If they are deliberately planted in towns, they should be maintained - pruned/pollarded/looked after ............. not let go to take over the place. Have you been to Paris? All along the Champs Elises (sp?) the almond trees are pollarded, pruned, cleaned, and are delight to see.
We all like trees, and there are precious little of them nationally ............... but most of them in towns and villages are left to over-grow, block up the drains and guttering with their leaves, and be a menace to sunshine and views.
Trees, I'm happy with. Luv 'em to bits. We need more of them .................... but in the right place and looked after properly too. If they over-grow, they become too big and have to be felled.
Who will be commemorated by the statue?
I read about the hoo-ha in the Western Morning News last week about the trees. First I'd heard about it. A quick Google brings this up and for what it's worth, I think it's an awfully ugly monstrosity. https://www.theatreroyal.com/news-and-b ... sculpture/
gnvqsos wrote:I will make a comment about Sheffield trees.We have loads here and the numbers being removed are in low numbers. Many protesters do not live near the trees being cut down and none appear to consult "us locals" for our viewpoint. The broad consensus is that many trees need attention and a few removed due to instability. The polarisation which has ensued has hardened the attitude of the authorities who will make their point by cutting down even more trees,rendering the action of the green element counterproductive.This element seem to have plenty of free time to waste on protests and have alienated people going about their business, slowing down cars .
Slowing down motors, I am all for that
Hey - steady on lad - you can be burned at the stake for heresy for saying things like that in current-day British society!
Ugly in the winter I agree, but healthier, and when the leaves come, they'll be lovely.
Absolutely right. My Mother in Law lives in Finchley London and has large Plane trees in the street. Due to economies they haven't been pollarded for years. The trees have become huge, overhanging front gardens. A road nearby had the tree gang in and because so much had to be cut off the trees look really awful. Yearly pollarding kept them small and very shapely in the summer.