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Re: Second-greatest invention of all time?

Posted: 28 Mar 2018, 7:11pm
by 661-Pete
rjb wrote:No it must be Handle after all he invented the bar. :lol:
or disraeli the inventor of gears. - Who!
or Tubular bells but last i heard he had a visit from the fairy. :roll:

For that, I suggest you leave the bike at home and take Debussy...

Re: Second-greatest invention of all time?

Posted: 28 Mar 2018, 7:56pm
by rjb
661-Pete wrote:
rjb wrote:No it must be Handle after all he invented the bar. :lol:
or disraeli the inventor of gears. - Who!
or Tubular bells but last i heard he had a visit from the fairy. :roll:

For that, I suggest you leave the bike at home and take Debussy...


I only take the Debussy to collect the Chopin after the puncture fairy caused a flat from a sharp. :lol:

Re: Second-greatest invention of all time? The Symphony Orchestra!

Posted: 7 Jan 2020, 10:17am
by Cyril Haearn
Beethoven is celebrating his 250th birthday this year, all his symphonies were performed in Bonn in one day :?

Looked for the masters works in a concert programme, found nothing, then I realised he was under 'v', van Beethoven

Re: Second-greatest invention of all time? The Symphony Orchestra!

Posted: 7 Jan 2020, 10:33am
by mercalia
Cyril Haearn wrote:Beethoven is celebrating his 250th birthday this year, all his symphonies were performed in Bonn in one day :?

Looked for the masters works in a concert programme, found nothing, then I realised he was under 'v', van Beethoven


you can tell he was deaf as all his music is tonally grey, lacks sparkle

Re: Second-greatest invention of all time? The Symphony Orchestra!

Posted: 7 Jan 2020, 11:06am
by Oldjohnw
We can probably argue about anything on these pages, including music preferences.

I won't argue, though. I am a fan of Beethoven. Music preferences are subjective.

I love this from the King's Singers:

https://youtu.be/JXhAz0DOpMU

Re: Second-greatest invention of all time? The Symphony Orchestra!

Posted: 9 Feb 2020, 11:20pm
by mercalia
the Symphony Orchestra pales into insigificance against something like a (block buster ) film. I was just looking at the credits for Avatar. Hundreds on hundreds of people playing their part. Its a shock to see the almost unending list.This was incidental as I had been watching the 2002 version of The Time Machine and the ethnic anthem/theme sounded similar to the later 2009 Avatar and I wanted to see if the same composer did both. seems like not, plagiarism?

Re: Second-greatest invention of all time? The Symphony Orchestra!

Posted: 9 Feb 2020, 11:53pm
by richardfm
Cyril Haearn wrote:The Symphony Orchestra!

100 or more* people play different instruments for an hour or more to an exact plan, how complicated is that? But it is made of lots of simple actions that combine to make the whole greater than the sum of the parts, +101

Elgar, Sibelius, Beethoven, Bach, Haendel, Mozart, Britten, Schubert, Schumann, Wagner..
Could there be any reason why most of them seem to be German? :?

* went to a Symphonic Mob concert, 400 musicians, they played 'we hate Nottingham Forest' by Sir Edward Elgar

(and Leeds)

Re: Second-greatest invention of all time? The Symphony Orchestra!

Posted: 10 Feb 2020, 9:42am
by merseymouth
Hi All, I might agree to the Orchestra being the second best invention of all times, but it could never be first!
For me the Mighty Wurlitzer or Compton Theatre Organ steals top spot!
So versatile, such a rich mixture of sound & tone, with the right person manning/personning the console they run the entire gamut of music, even get the horrible bag-pipes!
I can still hear "The Organist Entertains" running in my head :D . MM

Re: Second-greatest invention of all time? The Symphony Orchestra!

Posted: 10 Feb 2020, 10:14am
by Cyril Haearn
Hey MM
my implied message is: the bicycle is the best invention, I though you might claim the trike was second best, but which was invented first? :wink:

Re: Second-greatest invention of all time? The Symphony Orchestra!

Posted: 10 Feb 2020, 10:33am
by 661-Pete
As it happens, in the past few weeks I've gradually been 'playing myself back' into tinkling at the ivories* again, after a gap of some years. Not that I'll ever achieve anything others would want to listen to - but it's good therapy.

Rummaging through my substantial pile of scores the other day, I came across this. It's from a very difficult piano concerto - certainly not Mozart or Beethoven! I rather like this passage, because (a) it's the only part of the concerto that I can play (at least, the first two lines of it), and (b) the strangely ambiguous harmonies, neither major nor minor - I find them haunting. Others may not take to them though.

Can anyone who's got a piano or keyboard, (a) play it, and (b) tell me who it's by?
Start of impromptu.jpg


*No longer faced with ivory, luckily. I think piano keys are faced with some sort of plastic. Is that any better, I wonder?

Re: Second-greatest invention of all time? The Symphony Orchestra!

Posted: 10 Feb 2020, 11:00am
by mercalia
merseymouth wrote:Hi All, I might agree to the Orchestra being the second best invention of all times, but it could never be first!
For me the Mighty Wurlitzer or Compton Theatre Organ steals top spot!
So versatile, such a rich mixture of sound & tone, with the right person manning/personning the console they run the entire gamut of music, even get the horrible bag-pipes!
I can still hear "The Organist Entertains" running in my head :D . MM


I used to listen to that and visited one or two too see first hand.

Re: Second-greatest invention of all time? The Symphony Orchestra!

Posted: 10 Feb 2020, 1:16pm
by colin54
[quote="merseymouth"]
For me the Mighty Wurlitzer or Compton Theatre Organ steals top spot!
So versatile, such a rich mixture of sound & tone, with the right person manning/personning the console /quote]
If you ever get to Leeds on a monday they have free recitals on the town hall organ at lunchtime, worth the trip,it's a monster.

https://www.leedsconcertseason.co.uk/me ... a5-8pp.pdf

Re: Second-greatest invention of all time? The Symphony Orchestra!

Posted: 10 Feb 2020, 3:53pm
by merseymouth
Hi all, The bicycle as we know it now came after the tricycle, although the high wheeler or Ordinary came before that. The trike with large wheels was a safety version of the falling over large wheelers!
With regadrs to Leeds town Hall organ, glad it is still in working order in these cash strapped times. But a trip to Liverpool to hear the Willis Organ in St George's Hall is also well worth it's puff. TTFN MM

Re: Second-greatest invention of all time? The Symphony Orchestra!

Posted: 11 Feb 2020, 12:17am
by PDQ Mobile
661-Pete wrote:
Can anyone who's got a piano or keyboard, (a) play it, and (b) tell me who it's by?

B. Britten?

Re: Second-greatest invention of all time? The Symphony Orchestra!

Posted: 11 Feb 2020, 9:08am
by 661-Pete
PDQ Mobile wrote:
661-Pete wrote:
Can anyone who's got a piano or keyboard, (a) play it, and (b) tell me who it's by?

B. Britten?
Yes. Third movement of his piano concerto. Probably not a mainstream favourite, and not the easiest of listening. I remember a performance of it at the Proms a few years ago, by young virtuoso Benjamin Grosvenor - very impressive!