Tangled Metal wrote:So you don't think there could be an element of Ken stepping down to help Corbyn by removing one of the causes of Corbyn's accusers saying he hasn't taken strong enough action on those accused of making anti-semitic comments. That he hasn't taken the lead in this matter. That he has been leader of a party that's taken over two years on Ken's case without any sign of a conclusion. By taking the case off the agenda Ken has partly helped Corbyn. Do you not think?
(I'm not giving odds on the answer to that question. Don't bet against a certainty!)
I've not gone right into the Livingstone thing but I know an attack on the present and true Labour party by the Tories when I see it.
It's no secret that you and I are at different ends of the political spectrum That's our freedom and choice.
There's one thing that nearly always outs a right wing Tory,when they're losing and being shown up for what they are,they switch from attacking the policies of the opposition to attacking the individual Ive experienced it on this forum,not from you I hasten to add but from one or two others,and they show themselves up for the bigots they are.
Corbyn is popular,he's popular because he has an alternative agenda based on people and he's honest,dishonest people don't like it,I even saw Cameron try to belittle Corbyn on his clothing once.Honest people see and identify with the current real Labour party because they are real people and not pretenders to some great UK that only ever was for an upper class in a sickly class system.
IMO the Tories are dishonerable shysters interested in keeping the status quo by hook or by crook,lining there own pockets by exploiting the poor and claiming there's no other solution
I don't think Livingstone is an antisemite as I don't think the Labour party is antisemitic,yes there's antisemitism in it like there'll be racists,and an anti gay element just like any other political party.
All that said I do think it's about time someone pointed the finger as to where the middle East problems lie and that predominantly is with Israel and it's expansion and crushing of the Palastinians then claiming they're not the aggressors when the Palastinians react in the only way they can.
Am I an antisemite?
No,but I'm anti Isreal in what its policies are and the way they're being implemented.
I'm also opposed to present hoodlum currently in the Whitehouse who seeks to provoke war and mayhem by moving the US embassy to Jerusalem in a deliberate and antagonistic move toward the whole Arab world.
To be clear,I wish the whole of religion could be seen for what it is,exclusivism an insurance policy that never pays out and mechanism for war and distrust among people,but that's for another thread.