Front cover of Cycle Mag

Cunobelin · Post by **Cunobelin** » 24 Jul 2018, 9:07am

gaz wrote:Left hand crank of lead rider's bike.
Cyc1.jpg

in which case you would see a frame and wheel in front of it - you don't

thirdcrank · Post by **thirdcrank** » 24 Jul 2018, 9:09am

Mick F wrote:I'm still not convinced.

There was a copy of the IAM magazine some time back with a cycle race in progress on the front cover. The riders were heading towards the camera.
There were two riders in the front of the group who were "doubles". The shot had been duplicated to a great degree. If you looked further, you could see that there were a few doubles. The composition was a pastiche.

You may not be convinced but I fear that does not mean you are right. Have you considered that your experience with the IAM mag may have made you eager to find other examples and too quick to reach conclusions that you have done so? You seem now to have reached a stage where you are only searching for evidence that you are right, rather than trying to discover what is really shown. Ever since the Yorkshire Ripper fiasco, senior detectives have been keen to trot out the mantra "I'm keeping an open mind." That's what's needed here.
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Cunobelin - why should there be a relationship between the lead rider's left crank and another rider's front wheel?

Bez · Post by **Bez** » 24 Jul 2018, 9:32am

So now you're justifying your opinion of this image by referencing the fact that at least one other image you've seen has been doctored? Set confirmation bias to warp factor nine, Mr Sulu!

Bez · Post by **Bez** » 24 Jul 2018, 9:34am

Cunobelin wrote:in which case you would see a frame and wheel in front of it - you don't

That'll be the bright blue frame with the lady sitting on it, and the wheel attached to it.

GET ME SPECSAVERS ON SPEED DIAL, WHAT IS THE MATTER WITH YOU PEOPLE

[XAP]Bob · Post by **[XAP]Bob** » 24 Jul 2018, 9:34am

In fact the worst case of photoshop I see in cycle is one that really irritates me because there is no justification for it...

It's an ad for something (I can't even remember what) with a picture of a cyclist on the causeway to St Micheal's Mount... But the cyclist is clearly superimposed later...
It's not as if it would take any significant effort to get that photo done properly...

661-Pete · Post by **661-Pete** » 24 Jul 2018, 9:38am

This thread reminds me of a particular personality trait of my own... :oops:

Whenever I watch a movie or a TV series (all too seldom nowadays

) I'm always on the alert for errors and goofs: in particular anachronisms in costume dramas/period pieces. You know the sort of thing: parked car in the background, person wearing jeans, TV aerial left on a roof, contrails in the sky.....

Those who wish to tell me to "get a life Pete" - now is the time to do so!

Anyway, I am familiar with many of the well-known bloopers in the blockbusters. Jaws is one of the most fertile hunting-grounds. You know the stuff: the dummy shark's rubber teeth; the child's towel which changes colour; Brody's watch which disappears and then re-appears from his wrist; the Orca vessel which gets a re-paint job in mid-ocean; etc. etc. - I just love all that!

I remember a coup I scored recently, in a TV dramatisation of Conrad's The Secret Agent (which is set in the 1880s). In one shot we see a steam locomotive pulling out of a station, with the British Railways 'lion & wheel' logo clearly visible on its side: BR didn't come into existence until 1948...

Whether this means I should be adept at spotting bloomers in Cycle magazine - I don't know. Certainly on this occasion Mick F got in first!

Bez · Post by **Bez** » 24 Jul 2018, 9:56am

661-Pete wrote:I should be adept at spotting bloomers

Are you getting your specialist publications in a twist?

Cunobelin · Post by **Cunobelin** » 24 Jul 2018, 10:01am

Bez wrote:
Cunobelin wrote:in which case you would see a frame and wheel in front of it - you don't

That'll be the bright blue frame with the lady sitting on it, and the wheel attached to it.

GET ME SPECSAVERS ON SPEED DIAL, WHAT IS THE MATTER WITH YOU PEOPLE

So, lets get this right, the left crank of the second cyclist is part of the blue bike's frame?

We are inventing a whole new configuration of a tandem in "side car" formation

If you see the left crank of the second bike in that gap, then in front of it you should see the front wheel, tyre of the second bike

thirdcrank · Post by **thirdcrank** » 24 Jul 2018, 10:09am

I don't think anybody has said it's the following rider's crank. It's the leading rider's crank with her cycling shoe - toe down - next to it. It does match her right shoe.
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Re 661-Pete's comment about spotting mistakes, a headline on the BBC www news says "Bairstow's 82 puts England on top of Roses clash." I can't link to it, and if you follow the link it correctly says Yorkshire there.

bovlomov · Post by **bovlomov** » 24 Jul 2018, 10:23am

The shadows are all wrong, the flag is blowing in the wind, that's not even a proper space helmet, and that person looks nothing like Neil Armstrong (wrong shape nose). I'm sorry - this picture of the moon landings is clearly a fake.

Bez · Post by **Bez** » 24 Jul 2018, 10:43am

Cunobelin wrote:So, lets get this right, the left crank of the second cyclist is part of the blue bike's frame?

Er… No, the crank is the left crank of the blue bike. What you see at the end of Mick's Pointy Red Stick of Incomprehension is the end of the crank and the axle of the left pedal.

How is this difficult? :shock:

[XAP]Bob · Post by **[XAP]Bob** » 24 Jul 2018, 11:41am

bovlomov wrote:The shadows are all wrong, the flag is blowing in the wind, that's not even a proper space helmet, and that person looks nothing like Neil Armstrong (wrong shape nose). I'm sorry - this picture of the moon landings is clearly a fake.

You win.

backnotes · Post by **backnotes** » 24 Jul 2018, 2:43pm

The photo in Cycle is credited to Andy Whitehouse. Google is our friend.

The original photo is here:
https://andyw39.smugmug.com/CYCLESPORT/ ... -LB38jBw/A
and looks pretty much like the one on the cover of Cycle.

The next photo taken a moment later:
https://andyw39.smugmug.com/CYCLESPORT/ ... -QBMSZ7L/A

shows more of the occluded rider from the first image and shows that he would have been largely obscured in the cover shot, and is heading somewhat towards the camera, so the bike is foreshortened, making the wheels less prominent.

So I think we can safely conclude that these two cyclists really did land on the moon.

roubaixtuesday · Post by **roubaixtuesday** » 24 Jul 2018, 2:54pm

Conspiracy theories and photo altering aside, unless I'm very much mistaken that's Great Budworth, and by happy coincidence our evening ride will be pausing there on Thursday for a pint at the excellent George and Dragon.

Forecast for 26 degrees and sunshine at 8pm! Happy days.

Bez · Post by **Bez** » 24 Jul 2018, 2:57pm

I hope Mick at least salutes your dedication in setting up a fake portfolio on Smugmug and doctoring a second image

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