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Postby mercalia » 22 Sep 2018, 1:45pm

well I take my hat off to this squirrel that climbed up the wall 3 floors up to the top of the block of flats where I live
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Postby Vorpal » 22 Sep 2018, 2:01pm

mercalia wrote:well I take my hat off to this squirrel that climbed up the wall 3 floors up to the top of the block of flats where I live

He'd likely prefer some sunflower seeds ;)
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Postby mercalia » 22 Sep 2018, 2:23pm

Vorpal wrote:
mercalia wrote:well I take my hat off to this squirrel that climbed up the wall 3 floors up to the top of the block of flats where I live

He'd likely prefer some sunflower seeds ;)


well was all I had. i must say it was very picky at selecting the bread bits. It seems this squirrel ( probably ) has been using my balcony to climb into other flats - I was told another resident had found it or one of its friends chomping away on chocolate biscuits that a workman had left behind inside his flat - it had got in via a window ( and not a balcony window at that )
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Postby Mick F » 22 Sep 2018, 2:24pm

You'd be better off with an air rifle.
They might look cute, but they're horrible things.
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Postby Paulatic » 22 Sep 2018, 4:58pm

Tree rats!
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Postby al_yrpal » 22 Sep 2018, 5:56pm

Dont understand why anyone should hate squirrels? They are just wild creatures doing what wild creatures do - surviving. Perhaps they are capable of damaging some of our stuff, but so what, we no doubt damage their surroundings too? They live off the land with minimum impact, look what we the human race are doing to the planet…. Who is worse?

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Postby thirdcrank » 22 Sep 2018, 5:59pm

Until very recently - last couple of years - you were required to notify the Ministry of Agriculture - DEFRA? - if you had grey squirrels on your propert and it was an offence not to do so.
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Re: Visitors

Postby mercalia » 22 Sep 2018, 6:09pm

Paulatic wrote:Tree rats!


I thought pigeons were tree rats?

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Postby Cugel » 22 Sep 2018, 6:26pm

Mick F wrote:You'd be better off with an air rifle.
They might look cute, but they're horrible things.


I know squirrels who feel the same about humans. And many hedgehogs avoid us too (if they can - they fail to outrun the motorcars, especially those driven by Mr Toad). Badgers are already well shot, as they make a handy scapegoat for the TB-spreading farmers about the place. And then there's everything else in the various fauna, all of which are classified as "horrible things" by various queer humans. They all fear us, the beasts, for good reason - except the manipulative dogs & cats. Even they are persecuted on occasion by the likes of thee.

Were you frightened by a squirrel when a bairn? Are you afraid of all furry beasts? Perhaps a displeased squirrel bombarded you with nut husks? (I suspect you deserved it).

What else of the wildlife do you hate and persecute? I will be sending a list to Wild Maddy, of the animal liberation front,. Perhaps she will reciprocate upon you, employing a wet towel or even her heavy hand!

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Postby Cugel » 22 Sep 2018, 6:30pm

thirdcrank wrote:Until very recently - last couple of years - you were required to notify the Ministry of Agriculture - DEFRA? - if you had grey squirrels on your propert and it was an offence not to do so.
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That old chestnut! Did you realise, though, that this opinion is a signal of other such feelings you're likely to host, of the general "Coming over here, with their wrong colured fur" variety?

Here, have some proper squirrel knowledge:

http://www.grey-squirrel.org.uk/reds.php

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Postby thirdcrank » 22 Sep 2018, 6:41pm

Cugel wrote: ... That old chestnut! Did you realise, though, that this opinion is a signal of other such feelings you're likely to host, of the general "Coming over here, with their wrong colured fur" variety?

If it's not obvious, I posted with a certain amount of irony. The anthropomorphism is all yours.

I think it is true to say that (a) grey squirrels were introduced (b) their presence threatens red squirrels, which is why they are now so relatively rare in the UK. It's also true to say the the Ministry of Agriculture in its various forms has tried to exterminate grey squirrels but has failed., hence the change to the legislation a couple of years ago.

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Postby reohn2 » 22 Sep 2018, 6:43pm

al_yrpal wrote:Dont understand why anyone should hate squirrels? They are just wild creatures doing what wild creatures do - surviving. Perhaps they are capable of damaging some of our stuff, but so what, we no doubt damage their surroundings too? They live off the land with minimum impact, look what we the human race are doing to the planet…. Who is worse?

Al

Grey Squirrels are a nuisance and a menace to the native Red Squirrel causing disease and driving them out of their environment,they're the only reason there are now only pockets of Reds and human made sanctuaries formed where the live.
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Re: Visitors

Postby reohn2 » 22 Sep 2018, 6:48pm

thirdcrank wrote:
Cugel wrote: ... That old chestnut! Did you realise, though, that this opinion is a signal of other such feelings you're likely to host, of the general "Coming over here, with their wrong colured fur" variety?

If it's not obvious, I posted with a certain amount of irony. The anthropomorphism is all yours.

I think it is true to say that (a) grey squirrels were introduced (b) their presence threatens red squirrels, which is why they are now so relatively rare in the UK. It's also true to say the the Ministry of Agriculture in its various forms has tried to exterminate grey squirrels but has failed., hence the change to the legislation a couple of years ago.

It seems that now it's being discovered that introducing Pine Martins deters Greys from breeding and are being introduced into woodland where they're prevelant,apparently the the Pine Martins don't have the same effect on the Reds as they're too quick and agile.
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Re: Visitors

Postby thirdcrank » 22 Sep 2018, 6:58pm

I believe all sorts of species have travelled around the world by various means, including human transport. However, I believe the Victorians frequently collected exotic flora and fauna without appreciating what they might be doing. Sometimes it involved shooting animals for trophies, be that stags from Scotland for their antlers, or Bengal tigers to make rugs. At others, it was new plants for their gardens or fruit for the table: a form of conspicuous consumption. One way or another, they didn't appreciate how they were affecting the balance of nature.

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Postby reohn2 » 22 Sep 2018, 7:08pm

thirdcrank wrote:I believe all sorts of species have travelled around the world by various means, including human transport. However, I believe the Victorians frequently collected exotic flora and fauna without appreciating what they might be doing. Sometimes it involved shooting animals for trophies, be that stags from Scotland for their antlers, or Bengal tigers to make rugs. At others, it was new plants for their gardens or fruit for the table: a form of conspicuous consumption. One way or another, they didn't appreciate how they were affecting the balance of nature.

Agreed,Rhodidendrons are a classic example
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