horizon wrote:100%JR: I'm not suggesting you really should do it (a lot depends on the age of your children) but I do want to challenge your assumptions - if only for the fun of it. Lots of people camp with just bicycles and that includes camping with children (I've done it). It's worth thinklng about how that pans out, from the POV of a better experience.
BTW, most people are adequately tented at around 2 kg per person. Yes, travelling by train, with children and camping is difficult but not impossible (I recall the delightful French couple travelling with their child on a South West Trains service during the summer, complete with camping gear, child trailer and bikes).
BTW No.2: the cost of motoring is estimated at 45 ppm (that's the HMRC figure, not mine). The idea that motorists always look at the marginal cost and rail travel pricing is based on whole cost underpins much of what this thread is about. So that's 140 x 2 (return I presume) x 45p = £126.00. Children travel at half price less advance deduction less one third family rail card.
I've done plenty of camping by bike but for a two week holiday we want a bit of comfort hence the Tent(we also have a 20ft extension but not many UK sites will allow it.I have a little 2-man tent too.My wife and daughter don't ride anyway and there's noway they'd go in a smaller tent!
The HMRC figure is stupid.It costs nowhere near £126 in fuel.The other costs are irrelevant as we run the vehicle daily anyway.The car uses 6 gallons of fuel maximum.That is nowhere near £126.
£1.35ltrx4.54=£5.94 per gallon.
£5.94x6=£35.68
£126
Cyril Haearn wrote:Two hours, average 70 mph?
Penrith is the best station for Keswick, plus bus
I said around 2 hours.If we don't stop and use M1/A1/A66(158miles) it's usually about 2hrs 10min-2hrs 20 mins.70 mph? Cruise control is set at 85 on the M1/A1 and apart from when passing through Villages on the A66 we will be doing 70-80mph.Does anyone really do 70mph?Not judging by the cars/vans passing me they don't
If we go the "scenic route" through the Dales(136miles) it's about an hour longer.....still FAR quicker than by Train.
(I have done it in just over an hour and a half on a motorbike but I might have been going a bit quicker than 85mph )