I am not a vegan

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Re: I am not a vegan

Postby Cyril Haearn » 28 Dec 2018, 9:12pm

Vitamin B12 is the problem I think
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Re: I am not a vegan

Postby 661-Pete » 28 Dec 2018, 9:52pm

Any conversation - about any topic - can be stimulating and enlightening if both parties are willing to engage in it.

On the other hand, if someone broaches a subject and the other person makes a dismissive or noncommittal response, the first person will probably drop the subject and no harm done! It happens all the time - that is normal human interaction.

I see no problem with an individual coming up with the statement that they are a vegan. No more than if they said - say - that they are a golfer, or a magician, or a chimney-sweep, or whatever. If the listener(s) have no interest in the subject, they'll just change the subject. No need to stigmatise the vegan for making that simple statement, is there?
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Re: I am not a vegan

Postby pwa » 29 Dec 2018, 9:35am

Cyril Haearn wrote:Vitamin B12 is the problem I think

Easily found, but you have to know that you need it. Becoming vegan requires a bit of research if you want to stay healthy.

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Re: I am not a vegan

Postby Mick F » 29 Dec 2018, 9:49am

What would the world be like if we were all vegan?
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Re: I am not a vegan

Postby pwa » 29 Dec 2018, 9:51am

Mick F wrote:What would the world be like if we were all vegan?

There would be less demand for laxatives. :lol:

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Re: I am not Brian.

Postby Cunobelin » 29 Dec 2018, 10:00am

gaz wrote:I am not Brian and neither is my wife.



Who do you think you are talking to......

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Re: I am not a vegan

Postby 661-Pete » 29 Dec 2018, 11:00am

Mick F wrote:What would the world be like if we were all vegan?
Probably a bit like Soylent Green* - but let's not go there! :shock:

Ask yourself a slightly different question: "What would the world be like if all meat-eaters restricted themselves to two or three meat-meals per week?" And that includes breakfasts!

*Yes I do know what "SG is"!
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Re: I am not Brian.

Postby gaz » 29 Dec 2018, 11:28am

Cunobelin wrote:Who do you think you are talking to......

Cyrano de Bergerac?

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Re: I am not Brian.

Postby Cunobelin » 29 Dec 2018, 11:47am

gaz wrote:
Cunobelin wrote:Who do you think you are talking to......

Cyrano de Bergerac?



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Re: I am not a vegan

Postby Mick F » 29 Dec 2018, 12:40pm

Mick F wrote:What would the world be like if we were all vegan?
What I'm suggesting, is that we can't all be vegan.

Arguably, the single most important invention in the history of mankind is the ploughshare. Without it, we would still have been hunter-gatherers, and we would never have had industry and manufacturing. Without using animals to pull the ploughs, it would have been impossible to have a decent farm - therefore, we'd still be hunter-gatherers and veganism wouldn't/couldn't have been invented.
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Re: I am not a vegan

Postby reohn2 » 29 Dec 2018, 12:48pm

Mick F wrote:
Mick F wrote:What would the world be like if we were all vegan?
What I'm suggesting, is that we can't all be vegan.

Arguably, the single most important invention in the history of mankind is the ploughshare. Without it, we would still have been hunter-gatherers, and we would never have had industry and manufacturing. Without using animals to pull the ploughs, it would have been impossible to have a decent farm - therefore, we'd still be hunter-gatherers and veganism wouldn't/couldn't have been invented.

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Re: I am not a vegan

Postby pwa » 29 Dec 2018, 12:55pm

Mick F wrote:What I'm suggesting, is that we can't all be vegan.


We probably could. Now. The only peoples who might find it impossible, without relocating, would be mountain / hill dwellers living in traditional societies with only herding as a way of subsistence. Societies with access to a lot of arable land could move towards a vegan diet pretty easily. Not overnight, of course.

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Re: I am not a vegan

Postby 661-Pete » 29 Dec 2018, 1:08pm

Mick F wrote:What I'm suggesting, is that we can't all be vegan.
Quite possibly.

In which case, would you like to have a look at my previous post? And have a shot at answering my question?
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Re: I am not a vegan

Postby Mick F » 29 Dec 2018, 1:27pm

Arguably, the world would be a better place if we cut down on eating meat to perhaps twice a week. Dunno if I would be happy doing that though. I like - and thrive - on a meaty diet, though this morning I had a rasher of bacon and an egg for breakfast, but a banana+cheese+bread+butter lunch, and we plan on fish and chips for tea.
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Re: I am not a vegan

Postby pwa » 29 Dec 2018, 1:44pm

Mick F wrote:Arguably, the world would be a better place if we cut down on eating meat to perhaps twice a week. Dunno if I would be happy doing that though. I like - and thrive - on a meaty diet, though this morning I had a rasher of bacon and an egg for breakfast, but a banana+cheese+bread+butter lunch, and we plan on fish and chips for tea.

If you chose to change, the thing to do might be to find veg that you like and just up the quantity a bit, reducing animal produce a bit at the same time. A tweaking of the balance rather than anything radical.