I am not a vegan

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Re: I am not a vegan

Postby Bonefishblues » 4 Jan 2019, 3:19pm

Why are there too many dogs & cats, can I ask?

We have a couple. They are useless, much like other family members, but they are part of our family and make their own contribution.

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Re: I am not a vegan

Postby 661-Pete » 4 Jan 2019, 5:24pm

Bonefishblues wrote:Why are there too many dogs & cats, can I ask?

We have a couple. They are useless, much like other family members, but they are part of our family and make their own contribution.

I can't vouch for the accuracy of this report, but see here:
https://www.independent.co.uk/life-styl ... 78086.html
I'm not telling dog and cat-owners to get rid of their pets. I'm telling people who are thinking of acquiring a pet, perhaps to entertain the children - or of replacing one that's recently deceased - have a good long think about it.
Pete

Et qui rit des curés d'Oc?/De Meuse raines, houp! de cloques./De quelles loques ce turque coin./Et ne d'anes ni rennes,/Ecuries des curés d'Oc. - Louis d'Antin

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Re: I am not a vegan

Postby landsurfer » 4 Jan 2019, 5:26pm

I AM LEGION ....
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Re: I am not a vegan

Postby brynpoeth » 4 Jan 2019, 5:29pm

661-Pete wrote:
Bonefishblues wrote:Why are there too many dogs & cats, can I ask?

We have a couple. They are useless, much like other family members, but they are part of our family and make their own contribution.

I can't vouch for the accuracy of this report, but see here:
https://www.independent.co.uk/life-styl ... 78086.html
..

Plus One, the article is written in an interesting American English :wink:
It might be best to keep a herbivorous pet, a hamster or a cow or a sheep maybe, any others that do not eat meat?
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Re: I am not a vegan

Postby landsurfer » 4 Jan 2019, 5:30pm

Our pet ( 6 ) is funny, entertaining, loving, trusting, reliable ....
Our children (14, 9, 7 ) are madcap, angry, placid, loving, happy, trust nothing, unreliable, bite ..

The mix works .......... :lol:
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Re: I am not a vegan

Postby Bonefishblues » 4 Jan 2019, 5:31pm

brynpoeth wrote:
661-Pete wrote:
Bonefishblues wrote:Why are there too many dogs & cats, can I ask?

We have a couple. They are useless, much like other family members, but they are part of our family and make their own contribution.

I can't vouch for the accuracy of this report, but see here:
https://www.independent.co.uk/life-styl ... 78086.html
..

Plus One, the article is written in an interesting American English :wink:
It might be best to keep a herbivorous pet, a hamster or a cow or a sheep maybe, any others that do not eat meat?

Darn, I just shot the elephant - should have kept that one instead!

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Re: I am not a vegan

Postby brynpoeth » 4 Jan 2019, 5:34pm

landsurfer wrote:Our pet ( 6 ) is funny, entertaining, loving, trusting, reliable ....
Our children (14, 9, 7 ) are madcap, angry, placid, loving, happy, trust nothing, unreliable, bite ..

The mix works .......... :lol:

Plus One for children
If I want to bite a dog, where might be the best place? I mean the best part of the body to bite?
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Re: I am not a vegan

Postby 661-Pete » 4 Jan 2019, 5:54pm

brynpoeth wrote:Plus One for children
If I want to bite a dog, where might be the best place?....
Not here, at the very least... :shock:

... I mean the best part of the body to bite?
(*phew!*)
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Re: I am not a vegan

Postby landsurfer » 4 Jan 2019, 5:56pm

brynpoeth wrote:If I want to bite a dog, where might be the best place? I mean the best part of the body to bite?


Westie's ... Ears ..bite their ears ....... they hate it and will run a mile ..... :lol:
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Re: I am not a vegan

Postby Cugel » 4 Jan 2019, 6:02pm

661-Pete wrote:A dog is not a human. If I kept a dog (or a cat), I would certainly not deprive it of meat. But that presupposes that I would keep a dog in the first place.

I know that for many people a dog is a great comfort and excellent companion - but then I am not the same as many people. And there are just too many dogs! I wonder what the carbon footprint of the whole planet's worth of pet cats and dogs, amounts to (perhaps someone can supply the answer)?

So my take is: if you don't absolutely need a dog, don't keep one....


I absolutely need two - and they need me. We are a pack and roam free, putting the willies up soft-lads everywhere!

We did once try to feed the dogs with vegetarian stuff; even did the necessary research to find it and make sure it provided enough nutriments.

Two things: the evil terrible awful dogpharts; the disinclination of the dawgs to eat the stuff along with a sudden urge to get free and look for alternatives, such as next door's cat and possibly a few slow bairns.

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Re: I am not a vegan

Postby landsurfer » 4 Jan 2019, 6:28pm

Cugel wrote:I absolutely need two - and they need me. We are a pack and roam free, putting the willies up soft-lads everywhere!

We did once try to feed the dogs with vegetarian stuff; even did the necessary research to find it and make sure it provided enough nutriments.

Two things: the evil terrible awful dogpharts; the disinclination of the dawgs to eat the stuff along with a sudden urge to get free and look for alternatives, such as next door's cat and possibly a few slow bairns.

Cugel


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Re: I am not a vegan

Postby 661-Pete » 4 Jan 2019, 6:46pm

Forget the 'veggie dog' meme - it's a red herring. Or should I say, "red setter" or whatnot? I'm talking about the entire pooch populace - veggie or not...
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Re: I am not a vegan

Postby Cugel » 4 Jan 2019, 9:57pm

661-Pete wrote:Forget the 'veggie dog' meme - it's a red herring. Or should I say, "red setter" or whatnot? I'm talking about the entire pooch populace - veggie or not...


Well, if there was an inadvisable referendum and someone were foolish enough to pose the question: should we exterminate dogs or exterminate humans, as pests, I'd vote for a cull of the humans, even though I might well be near the front of the queue! Humans are quite murderous, you know. And they rarely eat their kills of other humans, unlike the economical dog. We even chuck 25% of the food animals we murder into the bin!

Anyway, I advise you not to attempt the extermination of my collies as I will become very unreasonable about it, bordering on berserk.

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Re: I am not a vegan

Postby pwa » 5 Jan 2019, 9:57am

Ben@Forest wrote:
pwa wrote:If you could be bothered you can, apparently, give a dog all its dietary requirements through a vegetarian diet. Obviously you would have to do some proper research to get it right. You can't do the same with cats though.


There is a clip of film where a dog owner is telling TV presenters her dog is vegetarian and prefers that diet. The presenter then puts down bowls of dog food one with meat and one without. Without hesitation the dog makes a beeline for the meat. I haven't seen it but my wife has, the look of disappointment on the owner's face is apparently very amusing.


:lol: Yes, and if I were attempting to feed a dog a vegetarian diet I would do some serious reading first. However, when I was a teenager I had a boxer dog that liked eating apples, so I know that dogs have a wide range of things they like to eat. I wouldn't want to deprive a dog of any nutrient it needed, though.

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Re: I am not a vegan

Postby 661-Pete » 5 Jan 2019, 10:02am

Enough on doggies: back to veganism: here at least is one individual who's most unhappy about the whole principle.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-s ... e-46761359
I have to say, the poster on the bus depicting a 'happy' calf (and the one lower down featuring a smiling pig) doesn't quite convey the right message to me. If veganism ever did become mainstream, most of these cute farm animals would disappear. And the landscape upon which they are reared would be irrevocably altered.

But having said that, I'm all in favour of promoting this idea to as many people as possible. Only a small proportion of readers will actually 'bite' - but a few is better than none. And we really are producing and consuming far too much meat. That much is indisputable.
Pete

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