Jayden Moodie

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Re: Jayden Moody

Postby 100%JR » 9 Jan 2019, 5:17pm

Oldjohnw wrote:Trial by social media.

Sorry no.Trial by facts.
The Police have stated it was a Targetted attack.
The rest of the evidence speaks for itself.

Riding illegally
Targeted attack.
Police have now changed wording from "knocked off his moped" to "knocked off a moped"

Or do you think it's OK for a 14 year old to ride around London on a Moped?If nothing else he's a criminal for that.

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Re: Jayden Moody

Postby al_yrpal » 9 Jan 2019, 5:33pm

Some of these kids seem to have no chance. I had two Aunties who lived in Markhouse Road and my Uncle was Waltham Forest's first Mayor, the area must have gone right down now.

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Re: Jayden Moody

Postby Bonefishblues » 9 Jan 2019, 5:36pm

100%JR wrote:
Oldjohnw wrote:Trial by social media.

Sorry no.Trial by facts.
The Police have stated it was a Targetted attack.
The rest of the evidence speaks for itself.

Riding illegally
Targeted attack.
Police have now changed wording from "knocked off his moped" to "knocked off a moped"

Or do you think it's OK for a 14 year old to ride around London on a Moped?If nothing else he's a criminal for that.

I was with you 'til the final sentence. If nothing else, he would be a petty criminal, amongst many, that's all.

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Re: Jayden Moody

Postby mercalia » 9 Jan 2019, 5:38pm

Oldjohnw wrote:Gosh! Some have decided that this child was a) a criminal b) with a knife and c) not worth much sympathy.

He nay have had a moped which he should not have driven. But they police have not said it was stolen or that he had a knife.


read the bottom of this BBC article
"Kerry-Ann Honeygahn told the BBC how a few weeks ago, her friend took a knife away from the boy." Probably got another one asap or would do so? That makes him a criminal as also does riding the moped. So you think kindly of those car drivers who ride around with no tax or insurance or license? shake the hands of the next such driver who crashes into you... There is nothing more that I fear in London coming across these junveniles who have no grasp of what they are really doing. They are a menace.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-46804698

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Re: Jayden Moody

Postby tatanab » 9 Jan 2019, 6:04pm

From a different news report
His helmet had been knocked 10ft. He was trapped under the wheel of the car. It was horrific.
What sort of person rides a moped with a helmet undone? One who is used to taking it off to avoid police pursuit perhaps. Just another circumstantial point which makes people suspicious.

edit - I still consider it a tragedy and the apparent coolness of the attack chilling.

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Re: Jayden Moody

Postby Oldjohnw » 9 Jan 2019, 6:17pm

So you think kindly of those car drivers who ride around with no tax or insurance or license? shake the hands of the next such driver who crashes into you.


Some mighty assumptions there.
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Re: Jayden Moody

Postby Mick F » 9 Jan 2019, 6:35pm

tatanab wrote:What sort of person rides a moped with a helmet undone? One who is used to taking it off to avoid police pursuit perhaps. Just another circumstantial point which makes people suspicious.

edit - I still consider it a tragedy and the apparent coolness of the attack chilling.
I agree with both these paragraphs.

He was victim.
One, his upbringing and the place where he lived.
Two, he was a young lad and tragically stabbed to death.

When I was fourteen, I was at home at 6.30pm doing homework or watching the telly or playing with my Meccano sets, or maybe in the summer months out riding my bike. Usually in bed fast asleep by 9pm.
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Re: Jayden Moody

Postby pwa » 9 Jan 2019, 6:40pm

The signs are that this lad was doing a few things we would find unacceptable. But he was 14 and lived in a place where boys commonly get drawn into crime. I made some bad choices at his age and I lived in a much easier environment.

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Re: Jayden Moody

Postby Mick F » 9 Jan 2019, 6:45pm

So what killed him?
The stab wounds or his local society?
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Re: Jayden Moody

Postby reohn2 » 9 Jan 2019, 7:02pm

Mick F wrote:
tatanab wrote:What sort of person rides a moped with a helmet undone? One who is used to taking it off to avoid police pursuit perhaps. Just another circumstantial point which makes people suspicious.

edit - I still consider it a tragedy and the apparent coolness of the attack chilling.
I agree with both these paragraphs.

He was victim.
One, his upbringing and the place where he lived.
Two, he was a young lad and tragically stabbed to death.

When I was fourteen, I was at home at 6.30pm doing homework or watching the telly or playing with my Meccano sets, or maybe in the summer months out riding my bike. Usually in bed fast asleep by 9pm.

You lived in a completely different world to what Jayden Moody and many inner city young people live in today.
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Re: Jayden Moody

Postby reohn2 » 9 Jan 2019, 7:05pm

Mick F wrote:So what killed him?
The stab wounds or his local society?

One is a direct result of the other,so both is the answer to that question.
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Re: Jayden Moody

Postby reohn2 » 9 Jan 2019, 7:18pm

pwa wrote:The signs are that this lad was doing a few things we would find unacceptable. But he was 14 and lived in a place where boys commonly get drawn into crime.

The question is,why?
The answer is a total lack of opportunities and a meaningful future for youngsters like Jayden Moody,contrasted by the immediate easy money and prestige of crime available to them.

I made some bad choices at his age and I lived in a much easier environment.

Me too,but it never got so bad.

The low value put on human life in today's society I find an obscenity
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Re: Jayden Moody

Postby brynpoeth » 9 Jan 2019, 7:23pm

When I was 14 I took and passed my cycling proficiency test
Cycling-of course, but it is far better on a Gillott
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Re: Jayden Moody

Postby reohn2 » 9 Jan 2019, 7:24pm

brynpoeth wrote:When I was 14 I took and passed my cycling proficiency test

When I was 14 I was riding upwards of 150miles a week and failed mine twice.
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Re: Jayden Moody

Postby brynpoeth » 9 Jan 2019, 7:33pm

reohn2 wrote:
brynpoeth wrote:When I was 14 I took and passed my cycling proficiency test

When I was 14 I was riding upwards of 150miles a week and failed mine twice.

Sorry, forgot to mention, passed first time, took it at lunchtime, rode 60 miles to a hostel
'I plan to ride 90 miles tomorrow' I told the warder
'Doubt you will manage that' he said :?
I did of course
Not sure if his pessimism had a lasting effect on me :wink:
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