Slowing motor traffic - press the button!

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Do you press the button to stop speeding crime?

Poll runs till 7 Mar 2019, 6:15pm

Yes, if I have time several times
2
5%
Yes, anything reducing speed, +1!
1
3%
Sometimes
1
3%
Only if I want to cross
15
41%
Not occurred to me, shall in future
1
3%
No, that is interfering
0
No votes
No, that is childish
13
35%
No, afraid to annoy drivers
0
No votes
No, surely that is illegal/illogical
3
8%
I fight speeding in other ways: e.g.:
1
3%
 
Total votes: 37

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Re: Slowing motor traffic - press the button!

Postby brynpoeth » 6 Feb 2019, 5:51pm

Bonefishblues wrote:...and why would we not want motorists to turn to cycling (upgrade, as you put it), out of interest?

Surely that's precisely what we would all wish?

No! Where I live a lot of people cycle, I do not want more, like in Kopenhagen
Many of the journeys made buy car no are unnecessary or could be made by train

One often hears experts calling for more cycling but they mean (I fear) that motorists upgrade to cycling, right?
I would settle for less motor traffic full stop
I am lucky mind, out of town I can cycle for hours and hardly see a soul. Not many PoBs manage to get more than 15 km from home

No, I do not want more cycling! Alternative views, friendly argument, thread drift welcome :)
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Re: Slowing motor traffic - press the button!

Postby brynpoeth » 6 Feb 2019, 7:00pm

100%JR wrote:
brynpoeth wrote:Still very puzzled at the reactions and poll results

Really?
Seek help before it's too late :wink:

Don't worry, I dinnae live near you :wink:
Where might I get help, what sort of help exactly, is there a charge?
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Re: Slowing motor traffic - press the button!

Postby Bonefishblues » 6 Feb 2019, 7:30pm

brynpoeth wrote:
Bonefishblues wrote:...and why would we not want motorists to turn to cycling (upgrade, as you put it), out of interest?

Surely that's precisely what we would all wish?

No! Where I live a lot of people cycle, I do not want more, like in Kopenhagen
Many of the journeys made buy car no are unnecessary or could be made by train

One often hears experts calling for more cycling but they mean (I fear) that motorists upgrade to cycling, right?
I would settle for less motor traffic full stop
I am lucky mind, out of town I can cycle for hours and hardly see a soul. Not many PoBs manage to get more than 15 km from home

No, I do not want more cycling! Alternative views, friendly argument, thread drift welcome :)

No, nothing to add, thanks.

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Re: Slowing motor traffic - press the button!

Postby brynpoeth » 6 Feb 2019, 7:33pm

Bonefishblues wrote:
brynpoeth wrote:
Bonefishblues wrote:...and why would we not want motorists to turn to cycling (upgrade, as you put it), out of interest?

Surely that's precisely what we would all wish?

No! Where I live a lot of people cycle, I do not want more, like in Kopenhagen
Many of the journeys made buy car no are unnecessary or could be made by train

One often hears experts calling for more cycling but they mean (I fear) that motorists upgrade to cycling, right?
I would settle for less motor traffic full stop
I am lucky mind, out of town I can cycle for hours and hardly see a soul. Not many PoBs manage to get more than 15 km from home

No, I do not want more cycling! Alternative views, friendly argument, thread drift welcome :)

No, nothing to add, thanks.

Why do you bother posting to say you have nothing to add? Seems a waste of time to me
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Re: Slowing motor traffic - press the button!

Postby paddler » 6 Feb 2019, 7:44pm

brynpoeth wrote:
Bonefishblues wrote:...and why would we not want motorists to turn to cycling (upgrade, as you put it), out of interest?

Surely that's precisely what we would all wish?

No! Where I live a lot of people cycle, I do not want more, like in Kopenhagen
Many of the journeys made buy car no are unnecessary or could be made by train

One often hears experts calling for more cycling but they mean (I fear) that motorists upgrade to cycling, right?
I would settle for less motor traffic full stop
I am lucky mind, out of town I can cycle for hours and hardly see a soul. Not many PoBs manage to get more than 15 km from home

No, I do not want more cycling! Alternative views, friendly argument, thread drift welcome :)


Didn't think of that, all those criminal drivers would simply become criminal cyclists, running you off the road!

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Re: Slowing motor traffic - press the button!

Postby 100%JR » 6 Feb 2019, 9:31pm

The OP is now just plain Trolling so that's me done.

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Re: Slowing motor traffic - press the button!

Postby brynpoeth » 6 Feb 2019, 11:53pm

Not sure what 'trolling' means here, I thought it meant bullying, insulting, suggesting violence, I do not do any of those

I really do not want more cycling, no irony/humour/provocation meant!
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Re: Slowing motor traffic - press the button!

Postby brynpoeth » 7 Feb 2019, 5:53am

Mick F wrote:None of the answers fit me.

I don't press anything if I can get away with it or even use the crossings. Stop, look, listen. If the road is clear, walk across.
Pressing a button slows everything up, even pedestrians.
..

Sorry, I should have offered 'don't know/other'
Not sure how pressing the button might slow PoFs
Often it is' safer' not to rely on the lights, better to wait for a gap, when the lights are red few apply the handbrake, some crawl forward over the line. Maybe they are not so good at starting off :?
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Re: Slowing motor traffic - press the button!

Postby Mick F » 7 Feb 2019, 8:08am

If you WANT to use ped crossings, you often - in a city/town environment - have to go out of your route to cross. Maybe there's a roundabout or a big junction. In order to do it as per design, you need to walk further, be constrained by barriers, and have to wait until you get the green man. You may have to do this five or six times to get across.

Look at this junction to the north of Plymouth.
Park and Ride.jpg

I've often walked from top-right (from the park and ride) to walk down the road off the bottom.
In order to do this, I have to cross FOUR individual crossings.

Easier and quicker is to ignore the crossing buttons and wait for gaps in the traffic.
Much easier and much quicker, is to walk diagonally from the P+R avoiding all the barriers.
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Re: Slowing motor traffic - press the button!

Postby Bonefishblues » 7 Feb 2019, 8:26am

brynpoeth wrote:
Bonefishblues wrote:
brynpoeth wrote:No! Where I live a lot of people cycle, I do not want more, like in Kopenhagen
Many of the journeys made buy car no are unnecessary or could be made by train

One often hears experts calling for more cycling but they mean (I fear) that motorists upgrade to cycling, right?
I would settle for less motor traffic full stop
I am lucky mind, out of town I can cycle for hours and hardly see a soul. Not many PoBs manage to get more than 15 km from home

No, I do not want more cycling! Alternative views, friendly argument, thread drift welcome :)

No, nothing to add, thanks.

Why do you bother posting to say you have nothing to add? Seems a waste of time to me

If you think that simple courtesy is a waste of time then that makes one of us.

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Re: Slowing motor traffic - press the button!

Postby 661-Pete » 7 Feb 2019, 8:42am

brynpoeth wrote:Not sure what 'trolling' means here, I thought it meant bullying, insulting, suggesting violence, I do not do any of those

I really do not want more cycling, no irony/humour/provocation meant!
Shall we call it "attention-seeking" then?

Don't you think, bp, you've made your point, and time to desist....?
Pete

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Re: Slowing motor traffic - press the button!

Postby kwackers » 7 Feb 2019, 9:04am

Here's my idea and like all my ideas it's based on good solid safety practices...

As you cycle along and come across a pedestrian crossing, slow down and tap the button as you go past.
This will halt the following traffic reducing incidences of close passes and provide a potential green man at an opportune time for any passing pedestrians.
Win win.

(Cars won't be delayed, they're only rushing to the next queue anyway).

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Re: Slowing motor traffic - press the button!

Postby Oldjohnw » 7 Feb 2019, 11:21am

I'm surprised this thread keeps running. Someone press the button?
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Re: Slowing motor traffic - press the button!

Postby mjr » 7 Feb 2019, 11:56am

kwackers wrote:Here's my idea and like all my ideas it's based on good solid safety practices...

As you cycle along and come across a pedestrian crossing, slow down and tap the button as you go past.
This will halt the following traffic reducing incidences of close passes and provide a potential green man at an opportune time for any passing pedestrians.
Win win.

Except that it delays the next green man for any pedestrians, as I explained earlier. Win lose!
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Re: Slowing motor traffic - press the button!

Postby brynpoeth » 7 Feb 2019, 4:13pm

kwackers wrote:Here's my idea and like all my ideas it's based on good solid safety practices...

As you cycle along and come across a pedestrian crossing, slow down and tap the button as you go past.
This will halt the following traffic reducing incidences of close passes and provide a potential green man at an opportune time for any passing pedestrians.
Win win.

(Cars won't be delayed, they're only rushing to the next queue anyway).

Plus One, also slows down motards turning off, crossing ones path
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