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Re: Techno Innovation?

Posted: 11 Feb 2019, 10:18pm
by fausto copy
Come on guys, get with it.
There was a report t'other day saying cassettes were back in vogue. :lol:
I recently binned all mine at the tip and now find they are going for a couple of quid each. :roll:

Mind you, now deaf as a donut, I flogged most * of my vinyl last year and my precious Pink Triangle Anniversary turntable.

* I'm hanging on to four albums that are supposed to be worth a mint.
One of them recently sold for over a grand apparently. :shock:

Please be thankful you still have hearing and enjoy whatever turns you on, on whichever equipment you fancy.

Re: Techno Innovation?

Posted: 11 Feb 2019, 10:37pm
by rjb
Short piece of nostalgia here - https://youtu.be/DvswW6M7bMo
Enjoy, it's a load of woofers and tweeters. :lol:

Re: Techno Innovation?

Posted: 12 Feb 2019, 3:33pm
by merseymouth
Hi there, Seems like I may yet have to buy a new deck, my last one siezed up? Glad to hear your views on the 12 inch singles, not a dead end project.
Much more to my taste than DAB!
Still got a few vinyl platters, even got a few shellac stuff. My exit song is Gracie Fields singing -"He's dead but he won't lie down"!
Will vinyl still work after brexit? Well they're claiming everything else will fail :lol: :lol: :lol: TTFN MM

Re: Techno Innovation?

Posted: 12 Feb 2019, 7:57pm
by Whippet
I bought a new record player last year ( a Rega P6 ) and love being able to play my old vinyl again. Albums hold emotional memories that Spotify playlists just can’t compete with. I’m also very wary not to become reliant on Spotify for my music, what if they jacked the prices up after I’m retired and poorer.
PS Generally, the better record players have fewer gadgets on them, it’s reckoned they can interfere with the sound. Mine even has the transformer and speed control in a separate box that’s kept away from the player.

Re: Techno Innovation?

Posted: 12 Feb 2019, 8:41pm
by kwackers
Whippet wrote:I bought a new record player last year ( a Rega P6 )

P6 - nice.

Mines a P3.

Re: Techno Innovation?

Posted: 12 Feb 2019, 9:00pm
by rjb
kwackers wrote:
Whippet wrote:I bought a new record player last year ( a Rega P6 )

P6 - nice.

Mines a P3.


Mines a RB250 arm fitted to a thorens td160

Re: Techno Innovation?

Posted: 12 Feb 2019, 9:17pm
by cycleruk
So where is a good place to get a stylus from ?
In the old days you just walked into the shop and bought one. :roll:

The first record I bought, with my apprentice wage, was Chris Montez - Lets dance. (September 1962)
I have 2 of these and one has the labels on the wrong sides. Must be worth a fortune. :?:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EjJq9c1maI

To play on my Dansette :mrgreen:

Re: Techno Innovation?

Posted: 13 Feb 2019, 4:28pm
by Pastychomper
merseymouth wrote:...
Some of you will surely remember 7 inch E.P.'s, which played at 33 rpm, with 7 inch singles paying at 45 rpm. The Album was of course a 12 inch disc played at 33 rpm.
But what about the 12 inch single which played at 45 rpm? ...

I don't doubt you're correct but I'm slightly surprised at EPs being 33⅓. As I recall from many happy hours with a string of record players, the 7" records in the family collection were pretty much all 45rpm, and I remember some of them being labelled "extended play." At the time I thought it odd given they were far shorter than a "long play", and guessed they meant compared to the 78s or to some less tightly-grooved disc.

It appears either I'm remembering it wrong or EP was a somewhat loose definition.

A while ago when my Dad reminded me he was soon to turn 78, I replied it sounded like a record to me. IGMC.

Re: Techno Innovation?

Posted: 13 Feb 2019, 4:43pm
by kwackers
Pastychomper wrote:I don't doubt you're correct but I'm slightly surprised at EPs being 33⅓. As I recall from many happy hours with a string of record players, the 7" records in the family collection were pretty much all 45rpm, and I remember some of them being labelled "extended play." At the time I thought it odd given they were far shorter than a "long play", and guessed they meant compared to the 78s or to some less tightly-grooved disc.

It appears either I'm remembering it wrong or EP was a somewhat loose definition.

A while ago when my Dad reminded me he was soon to turn 78, I replied it sounded like a record to me. IGMC.

E.P's were IME 33. Never saw any that weren't.
My recollection suggests they were a thing of the 60's, basically a 7 inch version of an album with 2 or 3 tracks.
Don't think I ever saw any after that.

<edit> A quick look on Wiki suggests they came in all forms. So my experience of 60's 'pop' is only one aspect.

Re: Techno Innovation?

Posted: 13 Feb 2019, 4:59pm
by rjb
Ive got a 10" disc in my collection, labelled as being Long Play and plays at 33rpm. Just to confuse you all. :lol:

Re: Techno Innovation?

Posted: 13 Feb 2019, 5:19pm
by al_yrpal
rjb wrote:Ive got a 10" disc in my collection, labelled as being Long Play and plays at 33rpm. Just to confuse you all. :lol:


The first vinyls I ever saw were 10" very soft discs which played at 33rpm. I still have one, its of the Gerry Mulligan quartet.

Al

Re: Techno Innovation?

Posted: 13 Feb 2019, 6:52pm
by merseymouth
Hi Al-Yrpal, Wow, Gerry Mulligan, very Jazzy stuff if I recall correctly?
Make me remember that a few years back Chris Barber took his band to Japan. He was asked to do a recording in one of their cutting edge studios.
The folk at the studio pressed him and the band that they must take great care because their technology, the latest, needed th recording to be done in a single take. "Oh" says Chris, "Just like in our early days" :oops: :oops: :oops: .
That Rega 6 turntable looks the bee's knees, but my pension won't tretch that far. IGICB MM

Re: Techno Innovation?

Posted: 13 Feb 2019, 7:19pm
by al_yrpal
MM, very few artists now record like that. A couple of years ago my daughter and friends from other bands she met performing at various festivals worldwide decided to make an album as an Indie Supergroup. They did their pieces independently in their homes on Macs and an expert mastered the final disk. Some of the Artists hadnt even met. They even shot their own video. The band toured Europe wide for best part of a year. I remember the Beatles used to record straight off. Those days seem to be gone. Modern gear can tweak you if you are off key. All we need niw is the vinyl clicks and crackles dubbed in.... :lol:

Al

Re: Techno Innovation?

Posted: 14 Feb 2019, 8:09am
by [XAP]Bob
mercalia wrote:
al_yrpal wrote:Yes, a lot of folk enjoy the somewhat warmer sound of vinyl and the exercise you get having to stand up and turn the disk over or change the disk. In addition you get a sleeve to admire and sleeve notes to cherish. Bands love the extra income and you can get even more from a special silver or gold one and it encourages fans to come to gigs and get the sleeves signed.
Win win for punters and artists.

Al


thats a bad record player. My record player sound is almost the same as my cd player. I have a few Lps and Cds of the same work so can compare.


Are they the same master?
CDs are inherently (just) beyond the limit of human hearing... but we don’t seem to think we need more than that when we buy a TV, we don’t buy them with ‘ultra wide frequency range - UV and IR display’

It’s very difficult to actually do an A/B comparison of audio sources.

Re: Techno Innovation?

Posted: 14 Feb 2019, 8:59am
by francovendee
I think most of us over a certain age had some sort of record player and a collection of records.
Why was this, because at that time it was the only way to play music in the home.
I found the advent of stereo a real wonder and spent £££'s buying and updating my system.
Today, unless I liked the idea of playing music on a record I'd not bother. Many other ways to listen to music with no fuss, no storage problems and a decent sound.
Aficionados will praise the advantage of vinyl and gloss over the cost and inconvenience.
By the way I stiil have my old turntable, tape deck, cassette player and tuner stored away in the loft, not really sure why apart from nostalgia