It's a Record!! 20 degrees!

[PDQ Mobile]

"When someone says 'since records began', they probably mean 'since about 1880'." So, really, about a nanosecond ago.

Or two lifetimes.

[Goosey]

"When someone says 'since records began', they probably mean 'since about 1880'." So, really, about a nanosecond ago.

Or two lifetimes.

I.E. not very long at all.

[Mick F]

From the link in the very first post...

The UK is experiencing its warmest February day on record, with the Met Office reporting a temperature of 20.6C (69.08F) at Trawsgoed, Ceredigion.

Firstly, I'm no expert, but I don't think Trawsgoed is in SE England.
Secondly, It's a record for *any* place the UK, not for *every* single place in the UK.

I was referring to this:

...and again. 21.2 new degrees at Kew

Where's Kew?

Also, the news on R4 continually referred to the fact that UK was experiencing its warmest February.
That, to me, means the whole of UK, not just a small area.

Sloppy reporting yet again.

[PDQ Mobile]

"When someone says 'since records began', they probably mean 'since about 1880'." So, really, about a nanosecond ago.

Or two lifetimes.

I.E. not very long at all.

Still it's mildly ( no pun etc) interesting?
As it gives one something to compare with as one gets steadily younger!

[roubaixtuesday]

Sloppy reporting yet again.

Or just gratuitous pedantry.

[PDQ Mobile]

Also, the news on R4 continually referred to the fact that UK was experiencing its warmest February.
That, to me, means the whole of UK, not just a small area.

Sloppy reporting yet again.

Not at all sloppy.
I think you would find it justifiable because places as far flung as Kew( it's near London!) West Wales and Aberdeenshire have all set new records.
Cornwall on the other hand is surrounded by cold water( sea at its coldest now?) which neatly explains what you have described.
Said he, bronzed and tanned from his deckchair.

[Patrickpioneer]

when records began, but take it with a pinch of salt as always
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2007/ ... features11

[Mick F]

Sloppy reporting yet again.

Or just gratuitous pedantry.

Gratuitous?
Pedantry, yes.

If the "authority" of the news broadcasters can't get it correct, how can we believe the rest of what they say?

[irc]

Putting it in perspective this February, in central England, has been the 9th warmest (provisional) on record. So consistent with the 1C or thereabouts warming in central England over the last 300 years. The warmest February being back in 1779.

https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpre ... te-change/

From the Central England Temperature Record. The hottest winter is still 1868/1869. The warmest May and June are from 1833 and 1846.Hottest January is 1916. Most variation from year to year is just weather.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_E ... emperature

[roubaixtuesday]

Sloppy reporting yet again.

Or just gratuitous pedantry.

Gratuitous?
Pedantry, yes.

If the "authority" of the news broadcasters can't get it correct, how can we believe the rest of what they say?

They did get it entirely correct.

[roubaixtuesday]

Putting it in perspective this February, in central England, has been the 9th warmest (provisional) on record. So consistent with the 1C or thereabouts warming in central England over the last 300 years. The warmest February being back in 1779.

CET shows essentially zero warming until the past 100 years or so.

Uncertainty in the numbers also increases back through time.

The graph you put up is legitimate, but the source is not generally reliable and should not be trusted unless checked against reputable sources.

[Mick F]

Or just gratuitous pedantry.

Gratuitous?
Pedantry, yes.

If the "authority" of the news broadcasters can't get it correct, how can we believe the rest of what they say?

They did get it entirely correct.

Who did?
Not the newscasters on Radio Four.

They repeated said that UK has experienced its warmest February on record.

Not "entirely correct" at all.
What they should have said, was that some small parts of England and Wales have had the warmest February on record and that many other places haven't.

[roubaixtuesday]

Gratuitous?
Pedantry, yes.

If the "authority" of the news broadcasters can't get it correct, how can we believe the rest of what they say?

They did get it entirely correct.

Who did?
Not the newscasters on Radio Four.

They repeated said that UK has experienced its warmest February on record.

Not "entirely correct" at all.
What they should have said, was that some small parts of England and Wales have had the warmest February on record and that many other places haven't.

Droning on endlessly with extraneous detail would not make them correct. It might satisfy pedants more, though more likely they would merely find further nits to pick in the added irrelevancies.

[PDQ Mobile]

Mick.
February is actually not over yet so full correlation must wait for a day or so- gather all the data nationwide to establish a month record!

However, it was the warmest February day on record, twice running, the second breaking the record of the first. Consecutive days.

20 degrees had never been recorded (Stevenson screen not a thermometer on a south windowsill!) in February in the UK ever before.

That is my understanding of the record and that is how it was reported in the OP.

It was certainly exceptionally warm here in West Wales, more like late May in fact.

[Mick F]

Well, we can disagree on the wording used by the news.
We haven't had record breaking temps here, but no mention was made that some (many?) places were not warm at all.
Since the "heatwave" has gone, it's warmer here now. No frost for the past two nights and mornings.