tea & coffee revisited

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Re: tea v coffee

Postby Freddie » 27 Mar 2019, 3:28pm

ThePinkOne wrote:Proper Chinese green tea brewed in a tea-pot (you don't need a strainer as the leaves are so big). Refreshing.
Any recommendations as to what is the good stuff?

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Re: tea v coffee

Postby hodge » 27 Mar 2019, 3:41pm

Freddie wrote:Coffee is a distant second and, according to recent research, probably not much good for you, if you're not a regular drinker of it already.


do you have a link to the research?

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Re: tea v coffee

Postby Freddie » 27 Mar 2019, 4:07pm

Here are a few things:

https://www.theguardian.com/science/201 ... t-caffeine (I think this was probably when I originally heard the idea of total abstention or regular drinking being preferable to infrequently)

https://www.menshealth.com/health/a1954 ... er-you-up/ - mixing caffeine and alcohol

However, a number of positive studies here:

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/247583.php

Some of the benefits seems to be linked to caffeine (also in tea).

As usual with this kind of thing, the findings aren't conclusive either way. My own anecdotal (whatever it is worth) experience is that coffee works as a stimulant more so than tea (it does have more caffeine). Tea doesn't seem to have the same stimulant effects for me.

An infrequent cup of coffee now and then probably isn't that serious, but anything that gives you an up also comes with a down. I expect frequent drinkers avoid this up and down by maintaining a baseline of caffeine intake, although complete withdrawal for them is probably far worse.

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Re: tea v coffee

Postby Cyril Haearn » 27 Mar 2019, 7:02pm

Drank a mixture of tea & coffee by mistake once (toffee), tasted good :wink:
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Re: tea v coffee

Postby Mick F » 27 Mar 2019, 7:13pm

Freddie wrote:My own anecdotal (whatever it is worth) experience is that coffee works as a stimulant more so than tea (it does have more caffeine). Tea doesn't seem to have the same stimulant effects for me.
There's more caffein in tea than coffee, but it's weight for weight.

A two-cup pot of tea has less than half a teaspoon of tea in it, whereas just a single a cup of coffee usually has a heaped teaspoon of coffee, and tea leaves are very light indeed, but coffee beans are heavy. You'd have to have a VERY VERY strong cup of tea to get even near the same caffein content as a normal cup of coffee.
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Re: tea v coffee

Postby NUKe » 27 Mar 2019, 7:26pm

Tea from a pot. A good quality Assam would be my favourite.not keen on flavoured teas, apart from whitards Moroccan mint. Turkish tea is quite nice the barbers I use, always gives you a cup.
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Re: tea v coffee

Postby Mick F » 27 Mar 2019, 7:32pm

Me too.
Good quality Assam loose tea. :D
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Re: tea v coffee

Postby ThePinkOne » 29 Mar 2019, 7:55pm

Freddie wrote:
ThePinkOne wrote:Proper Chinese green tea brewed in a tea-pot (you don't need a strainer as the leaves are so big). Refreshing.
Any recommendations as to what is the good stuff?


Erm... The stuff my husband is given by Chinese colleagues which only has Chinese writing on the pack is what I drink.

Sorry I cannot be more help, you could try an ethnic food store in your local Chinese quarter. The boxes we get are vacuum packed, leaves curled very tiny but expand and uncurl when put in hot water, have to be careful not to use too many or get a teapot full of big leaves :lol: as I discovered the first time I used it!

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Re: tea v coffee

Postby iandriver » 29 Mar 2019, 8:11pm

Coffee always leaves me feeling thirsty. Best reserved for occasions where the cream is floating on the top and a good glug of drambiue has been added.

A good old cup of builders tea for me the rest of the time.
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Re: tea v coffee

Postby softlips » 29 Mar 2019, 10:32pm

Tea is far more thirst quenching. I don’t like the so called fruit teas, they’re nothing of the sort. I do like Earl Grey, Darjeeling and Jasmine Green tea though. Like black teas, they need brewing in boiling water for three minutes at least - and no milk. I do allow them to cool slightly- more so given the research into oesophageal cancer and hot drinks.

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Re: tea v coffee

Postby Mike_Ayling » 29 Mar 2019, 10:52pm

reohn2 wrote:Try some of the specialist teas,Twinnings do a few different one's,I used to ldrink Earl Grey exclusively for a time and I've tried a few different ones including,Assam,Lapsang,Dargeeling and Redbush.I do like Fennel tea occasionally :)


Mary and I can't stand Earl Grey but some of the others aren't bad.

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Re: tea v coffee

Postby Oldjohnw » 30 Mar 2019, 7:28am

Mick F wrote:
Freddie wrote:My own anecdotal (whatever it is worth) experience is that coffee works as a stimulant more so than tea (it does have more caffeine). Tea doesn't seem to have the same stimulant effects for me.
There's more caffein in tea than coffee, but it's weight for weight.

A two-cup pot of tea has less than half a teaspoon of tea in it, whereas just a single a cup of coffee usually has a heaped teaspoon of coffee, and tea leaves are very light indeed, but coffee beans are heavy. You'd have to have a VERY VERY strong cup of tea to get even near the same caffein content as a normal cup of coffee.



As soon as you add the boiling water to tea it is, in effect, decaffeinated.
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Re: tea v coffee

Postby Bonefishblues » 30 Mar 2019, 8:32am

Oldjohnw wrote:
Mick F wrote:
Freddie wrote:My own anecdotal (whatever it is worth) experience is that coffee works as a stimulant more so than tea (it does have more caffeine). Tea doesn't seem to have the same stimulant effects for me.
There's more caffein in tea than coffee, but it's weight for weight.

A two-cup pot of tea has less than half a teaspoon of tea in it, whereas just a single a cup of coffee usually has a heaped teaspoon of coffee, and tea leaves are very light indeed, but coffee beans are heavy. You'd have to have a VERY VERY strong cup of tea to get even near the same caffein content as a normal cup of coffee.



As soon as you add the boiling water to tea it is, in effect, decaffeinated.

Is that due to chemistry, or do you mean simply by dilution?

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Re: tea v coffee

Postby Oldjohnw » 30 Mar 2019, 8:41am

Bonefishblues wrote:
Oldjohnw wrote:
Mick F wrote:There's more caffein in tea than coffee, but it's weight for weight.

A two-cup pot of tea has less than half a teaspoon of tea in it, whereas just a single a cup of coffee usually has a heaped teaspoon of coffee, and tea leaves are very light indeed, but coffee beans are heavy. You'd have to have a VERY VERY strong cup of tea to get even near the same caffein content as a normal cup of coffee.



As soon as you add the boiling water to tea it is, in effect, decaffeinated.

Is that due to chemistry, or do you mean simply by dilution?



I oversimplified: apologies. Caffeine occurs naturally in the tea plant, Camellia sinensis, so all brewed tea contains some caffeine. Hotter water and longer steeping time will draw out more caffeine in brewed tea—think black or oolong tea. Cooler water and shorter steeping time extracts less caffeine—think green or white tea. Tea is the only plant that contains L-theanine, an amino acid that promotes calm and relaxation. It works in synergy with the stimulant caffeine to induce a state of mindful alertness. Caffeine from tea is thought to absorb more slowly in the body than caffeine from coffee. This gentle release promotes a longer period of alertness without a jittery rush at the start or crash at the end.
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Re: tea v coffee

Postby Bonefishblues » 30 Mar 2019, 8:43am

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