Carlton green wrote:It seems to me that knocking 100% JR has become a marvellous diversion for the activities of XR, I can only guess that that is why some people seem to be going after him.
Personally I think that XR have become a very poor advertisement for green issues, they seem to have got carried away with themselves rather than engaging with the public. Certainly the disruption that they have caused in London has made a point or two but the magnitude of that disruption and its length discredits them as a responsible organisation. Simply put there are better ways to protest and engage support from the general public, to my mind they have completely unnecessarily scored many home goals and that doesn’t help the green movement at all.
Perhaps we all need to have our comfortable consumer lives disrupted - even stopped - since we seem unable to halt the plunge into climate disaster of our own volition? You. me and everyone else (even many of the XRers) continue to consume and to participate to various degrees in a thousand human activities that will continue to warm the atmosphere, make hundreds of species per decade extinct and otherwise pollute the biosphere that is now quite rapidly becoming unusable by future generations.
The vast generation of pollution by humans in cities is a consequence not just of the cars but all the other stuff, from throwaway plastics to the energy used (and pollution produced) by even trains and buses. Our normal mode of wealth creation is itself an enormous pollutant on several levels, from the production of landfill to the vast use of energy just to get from home to work.
I can fully understand the panic of those XRers who have realised that we, the human species, is continuing the plunge because all of us find it hard to give up even the smallest convenience.
You might make a case that the more disruptive XR activities are not very politic, merely hardening the attitudes of we do-nowt humans. We can observe several flavours of hardened attitudes against doing what XR wants here in the forum, including yours. From this point of view, I would agree with those that opine that XR actions will change nothing of the large policies that governments, business and other dominant organisations continue to rope us into, as we maintain our incomes, comforts and lifestyles.
But the XRers are not the big problem, are they? All of us humans and our activities are the big problem.