pwa wrote:But they are attacking people who are doing the sort of thing they want everyone to do. Using public transport. They could not think of less appropriate targets. What next? Trash a wind farm? Trample over some allotments? I was sympathetic, but I am less sure now.
I think you might be over egging the pudding there.
Seriously though whilst I don't think the tube is a particularly good target (and I believe the majority didn't support attacking it anyway) you still have to question why people got so upset.
They don't get that upset when other groups use it to further their cause.
And that's the main gist of my point. Folk simply don't like ER for the same reason they object to cyclists on their roads.
Ever confronted someone who's done something wrong? Seen how angry they get?
Guilt? Perhaps; but more likely to be simple denial - the human ability to stick its mental fingers in its mental ears and go lah lah lah rather than think about what would otherwise seem to be an impossible-to-solve or very (very) inconvenient problem. The harder the problem (and the more dire its consequences) the louder the lah-lahs.
In all events, the XRers are, at bottom, trying to make a louder noise about the problem of climate change than we lah-lahers are making in our heads, as we go about continuing to to warm the atmosphere, pollute the biosphere and extinguish the bejasus out of things that live, including ourselves eventually. But to what end do they XR?
The XRers hope there are solutions! They are Progressives in that they believe human ingenuity and fabulous technology can somehow not just turn back the clock but undo all the other damage. At the very least, they believe that the damaging can be stopped.
Personally I think there's no chance. Humans have a certain base nature. Technology has a life and intents of its own.
My own response is to change my own behaviours to reduce my own damaging. Although I've made a start its far from enough. To stop the damage one does oneself, vast changes in lifestyle will be needed. Still, I'll continue on that path albeit in a rather indolent fashion, well within my comfort zone, especially the economic comfort zone.
It won't make any difference. Large forces have hold of the processes that will bring about warming and various mass extinctions or population crashes of certain species (including humans). We don't control those forces. Despite the hubris expressed in various ways by various humans, there isn't yet even any theoretical means to stop these extinction processes - not that the vast vested interest behaviours of most of humanity would countenance such means, even if they did really exist.
We're all doomed. How we respond to this knowledge seems to vary a great deal. Some are content to fiddle as the planet burns, even increasing their fiddling and going about in fuel-guzzling aeroplanes to do it in different places. Others buy solar panels or even a windmill. Some give up the car. Some panic and get on a high place to cry woe. It's all irrelevant really. Doom will have us!
The basic problems are these: too many humans (and ever-more); too much technology amplifying the ability of humans to consume stuff, our dearest desire above all others except procreation.