Tory leader - place your bets

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mercalia wrote:seems like rhees-moggys new book hasnt got the the times best seller list
He has just 700 odd followers

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/sh ... GTUK_email

Critics didn't think much of it
https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/news/jacob-rees-mogg-victorians-book-panned-critics-reviews-a8920801.html wrote:Jacob Rees-Mogg's new book on the Victorians universally panned by critics
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Conservative MP Jacob Rees-Mogg’s new book has been savaged by the critics, who have dismissed his tribute to the Victorians as “staggeringly silly”, “sentimental jingoism” and “so terrible”.

Writing in The Sunday Times, Dominic Sandbrook described it as “so bad, so boring, so mind-bogglingly banal that if it had been written by anybody else it would never have been published”.

AN Wilson was equally withering, describing Mr Rees-Mogg’s effort as “anathema ... to anyone with an ounce of historical, or simply common, sense”. In his review for The Times, Mr Wilson said the book “consists of a dozen clumsily written pompous schoolboy compositions … What a staggeringly silly book this is!”

Historian Kim A Wagner called the book “a sentimental vision of the past as the author wishes it had been” resembling a series of “half-remembered anecdotes from a Boy’s Own story, or perhaps tales told by his nanny”.

The Guardian reviewer Kathryn Hughes wrote: “At least we know The Victorians isn’t ghost written, since no self-respecting freelancer would dare ask for payment for such rotten prose.”

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Hi,
reohn2 wrote:
Mick F wrote:........ I'd add more years to that than ten.

Oh! I'd agree and you can count Thatcher and New Labour (the Tory party in red ties)in that,but I was being specific to the present buch of idiots.

What's this Tory Blair New Labour you're talking about?

It seems that R2 Has abandoned his long loved party and gone green?
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NATURAL ANKLING wrote:Hi,
reohn2 wrote:
Mick F wrote:........ I'd add more years to that than ten.

Oh! I'd agree and you can count Thatcher and New Labour (the Tory party in red ties)in that,but I was being specific to the present buch of idiots.

What's this Tory Blair New Labour you're talking about?

It seems that R2 Has abandoned his long loved party and gone green?


Care to explain how you arrive at that conclusion?
I've always expressed a dislike of Blair/New Labour and always named them as Tories in red ties.
Now tell the assembly where I've ever posted that I voted for the Green Party :?
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Hi,
reohn2 wrote:
NATURAL ANKLING wrote:Hi,
reohn2 wrote:Oh! I'd agree and you can count Thatcher and New Labour (the Tory party in red ties)in that,but I was being specific to the present buch of idiots.

What's this Tory Blair New Labour you're talking about?

It seems that R2 Has abandoned his long loved party and gone green?


Care to explain how you arrive at that conclusion?
I've always expressed a dislike of Blair/New Labour and always named them as Tories in red ties.
Now tell the assembly where I've ever posted that I voted for the Green Party :?


Sorry R2, I should of it a :) at the end.
So who are you putting your faith with At the moment?
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NATURAL ANKLING wrote:So who are you putting your faith with At the moment?
For my own part, I have no faith in ANY of them.
Not one party, not one person.
All as terrible as each other.

They couldn't organise a "party" in a brewery.
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NATURAL ANKLING wrote:Hi, ...........So who are you putting your faith with At the moment?

I don't have faith in politicians,voting IMO is matter of choosing the best of evils on offer.
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I see Trump has endorsed Johnson.

Hopefully this will be the kiss off death for Boris's campaign.
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whats your bet on Sajid Javid ?

or as the BBC puts it
Tory leadership contest: Javid says 'No, no, no' to second referendum

Tory leadership hopeful Sajid Javid has ruled out a second referendum, a general election and revoking Article 50 if he becomes the next PM.

Writing in Saturday's Daily Mail, the home secretary said another vote "would be disastrous for trust in politics".

He said he planned to negotiate an amendment to the Irish backstop "directly with Ireland" to get a deal that could pass through Parliament.

And he also said the UK "must prepare fully" for a no-deal Brexit.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-48482762

does that raisse a few smiles here? :lol:
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Negotiate with Ireland, not the EU.
Excellent.
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Mick F wrote:Negotiate with Ireland, not the EU.
Excellent.


hmm the monkey not the organ grinder :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

ps where does the grinder from organ grinder come from?

he dont have a clue and hasnt learnt ANYTHING from the last 2 years :roll:
The EU wouldnt allow ANTHING that compromised their internal market etc
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Street organs were driven by a cranked handle. The organ grinder (of the handle) often had a pet monkey with a tin collecting coins on behalf of his master.

I wouldn't say that Ireland are the metaphorical monkey at all but it's they who should have an individual say, not the EU as a whole. You can understand the EU's perspective though, but it's an Ireland/UK problem personally.
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Mick F wrote:Street organs were driven by a cranked handle. The organ grinder (of the handle) often had a pet monkey with a tin collecting coins on behalf of his master.

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I get the monkey bit just why is turning the handle called grinding? Gives me images of grinding coffee beans or using a file on some metal.
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mercalia wrote:
Mick F wrote:Street organs were driven by a cranked handle. The organ grinder (of the handle) often had a pet monkey with a tin collecting coins on behalf of his master.

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I get the monkey bit just why is turning the handle called grinding? Gives me images of grinding coffee beans or using a file on some metal.


My guess is from turning a grindstone. I believe it was a street trade. People would go round the streets with a grindstone offering to sharpen knives. The similarity to an organ grinder, also plying their trade in the street is obvious. I expect they had a special cry.

https://www.1900s.org.uk/1900s-knife-grinder.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Street_organ
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Just another word for turning a handle that does work. Grinding coffee in a coffee mill turning the handle. Coffee is "ground" but not with a grind-stone.

Some cyclists - like me - are called grinders - or more usually these days a masher.
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Barrel organ works by turning a handle,looks like a huge coffee grinder.
Monkey is an obvious attraction for the ladies and children.
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