Tory leader - place your bets

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Re: Tory leader - place your bets

Postby PDQ Mobile » 23 May 2019, 8:16pm

And I think the Tory leader will remain the same.
His name is Rupert Murdoch.

Only the figurehead is about to be swapped.

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Re: Tory leader - place your bets

Postby Mike Sales » 23 May 2019, 8:24pm

thirdcrank wrote:
Mike Sales wrote:Boris is apparently popular with Tory voters, but those who know him, who have worked with him are not very keen.
But perhaps they will see him as someone who can pull together the party at large.


I think it's important to distinguish between members of the Conservative Party who will elect the new leader but are restricted by the choices on the ballot, and the wider electorate who will decide the next GE. I think Johnson is very popular with Tory party members, but less of a shoo-in with that broader electorate.


Indeed, but perhaps those who choose who goes on the ballot will hold their noses because of Blondie's popularity with the members. They will be feeling the pressure of those members' desire for him and also wanting to attract the Brexit voters back.
I see PDQ still sees the Dirty Digger as the power he once was here. Hasn't he handed over to the next generation of Murdochs who are busy in the U.S.A.?
Edited to add the commonplace that social media are more influential than newspapers these days, and so those manipulators infiltrating FB etc. are leaving Rupe behind.
How about Steve Bannon as the sinister puppetmaster, via Farridge? But we are discussing the Tory puppet.
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Re: Tory leader - place your bets

Postby Mick F » 23 May 2019, 8:30pm

Mike Sales wrote: because of Blondie's popularity

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahGxiSV ... gs=pl%2Cwn
.......... and when we talk, it feels like Paradise ..............
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Re: Tory leader - place your bets

Postby kylecycler » 23 May 2019, 8:44pm

Mick F wrote:
Mike Sales wrote: because of Blondie's popularity

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahGxiSV ... gs=pl%2Cwn
.......... and when we talk, it feels like Paradise ..............

Not Heart of Glass but heart of stone - the Tories - but for anyone who hasn't heard this (it was used in an episode of The Handmaid's Tale)...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUOJ8IlbdBQ

(Sorry, off-topic, but a bit mind-blowing)

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Re: Tory leader - place your bets

Postby Mick F » 23 May 2019, 8:47pm

Excellent.
Thank you.
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Re: Tory leader - place your bets

Postby kylecycler » 23 May 2019, 8:55pm

Mick F wrote:Excellent.
Thank you.

Like you I don't have a TV so I've never seen The Handmaid's Tale but it gave me chills when I heard the track on the radio.

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Re: Tory leader - place your bets

Postby Mick F » 23 May 2019, 9:00pm

Off topic.
We're still getting threatening letters because we're continuing to ignore their threatening letters.
Such fun. :lol:
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Re: Tory leader - place your bets

Postby PDQ Mobile » 23 May 2019, 9:04pm

Mike Sales wrote:
thirdcrank wrote:
Mike Sales wrote:Boris is apparently popular with Tory voters, but those who know him, who have worked with him are not very keen.
But perhaps they will see him as someone who can pull together the party at large.


I think it's important to distinguish between members of the Conservative Party who will elect the new leader but are restricted by the choices on the ballot, and the wider electorate who will decide the next GE. I think Johnson is very popular with Tory party members, but less of a shoo-in with that broader electorate.

I see PDQ still sees the Dirty Digger as the power he once was here. Hasn't he handed over to the next generation of Murdochs who are busy in the U.S.A.?
Edited to add the commonplace that social media are more influential than newspapers these days, and so those manipulators infiltrating FB etc. are leaving Rupe behind.
How about Steve Bannon as the sinister puppetmaster, via Farridge? But we are discussing the Tory puppet.


I am sure you are right( no pun intended).
The broader point was merely what you appear to already know.
And I am glad about that.

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Re: Tory leader - place your bets

Postby thirdcrank » 23 May 2019, 10:24pm

There's an understandable assumption here that the change is imminent but how will it be triggered?

AIUI, there's no recent precedent for HM to take the initiative and to send for the replacement. While TM cannot get Brexit through, she can rustle up a parliamentary majority in a confidence motion because nobody dares to risk a GE and let in JC.

I'm not talking about party leadership, of course, so it's theoretically possible that the Tories will elect a new party leader but TM wouldn't advise HM to offer them the chance to form a government. And if she did, the arithmetic might be no different, particularly on anything involving Brexit.

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Re: Tory leader - place your bets

Postby Psamathe » 23 May 2019, 11:32pm

Mike Sales wrote:[Boris]But perhaps they will see him as someone who can pull together the party at large.

Which is probably why the problems facing the UK will get no better because still the Conservatives are thinking only of "Party" rather than country (which is also rather badly split).

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Re: Tory leader - place your bets

Postby Oldjohnw » 24 May 2019, 7:13am

So Mexit will be announced today, it appears.

Will this be the best and only deal? The one wot the people voted for? Will Mexit really mean Mexit.
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Re: Tory leader - place your bets

Postby Lance Dopestrong » 24 May 2019, 7:30am

Well, if we end up with Mexit I insist upon a confirmatory vote.
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Re: Tory leader - place your bets

Postby mercalia » 24 May 2019, 8:35am

Lance Dopestrong wrote:Well, if we end up with Mexit I insist upon a confirmatory vote.


no need for that as there is concensus in parliament :lol:

Mexit means Mexit to quote a famous politician

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Re: Tory leader - place your bets

Postby reohn2 » 24 May 2019, 8:55am

Mike Sales wrote:Boris is apparently popular with Tory voters, but those who know him, who have worked with him are not very keen.
But perhaps they will see him as someone who can pull together the party at large.

That seems to be the problem unfortunately,the party is 'at large' when it should locked up in one of the mental institutions it's allowed the private sector to treat people like animals in for so long :twisted:
Or is it itself one of those institutions? :?

I think the term that best describes the Tory party is 'not fit for purpose' indeed if it were a consumable you'd take it back and demand a refund :wink:

As for a leader you'd have to say BoJo the clown fits the bill nicely,mad as box of frogs himself,in charge of another larger box which he'd be intent on taking the lid off just to see how far they'll jump.
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Re: Tory leader - place your bets

Postby Cugel » 24 May 2019, 8:59am

Doomed! We're all doomed!!

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