Tory leader - place your bets

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Re: Tory leader - place your bets

Postby Lance Dopestrong » 24 May 2019, 6:21pm

To which I would have replied, "yes, because there was always some scruffy enlisted PEON like you to bull them for him."
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Re: Tory leader - place your bets

Postby Psamathe » 24 May 2019, 6:40pm

Tangled Metal wrote:It was simply a impossible task. Divided nation can't come together whilst the process of acting on the referendum is in process IMHO. We need closure of the process before healing can happen.

I was on holiday and away from sources of news up in Scotland. Last day I checked Google news. I was surprised to see may as leader. First off I thought tory leadership process would drag on. Second May had a decent rep as a kind of supporting bureaucrat type of politician. Not the vain and arrogant leader you'd expect.

Thirdly it was always going to be a poisoned chalice using the role on at that time. I thought she'd let other politician take it on then step up as a safe pair of hands after we had officially left the EU........

I think they are all too power hungry, all have too big egos to let an opportunity for power pass. Like all those seeking the post now. It's still that "poisoned chalice" and they all be better off long term to pass on this opportunity and go for it next time, but they can't see the bigger picture, can't pass an opportunity for power, to be "big white chief".

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Re: Tory leader - place your bets

Postby Ben@Forest » 24 May 2019, 6:54pm

Lance Dopestrong wrote:To which I would have replied, "yes, because there was always some scruffy enlisted PEON like you to bull them for him."


I met a good few German WW2 veterans (including some who were prisoners of the Soviets); they were almost universally unhappy and a little ashamed of their war service.

Those that had been in Soviet POW camps were disgruntled about the length of time they were held, though l believe, proportionately, we held German POW longer, probably in better conditions though.

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Re: Tory leader - place your bets

Postby thirdcrank » 25 May 2019, 7:35am

Having read the BBC's current list of possible candidates, I'm drawn to the conclusion that they might be best giving TM another go.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48395611

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Postby bovlomov » 25 May 2019, 8:44am

thirdcrank wrote:Having read the BBC's current list of possible candidates, I'm drawn to the conclusion that they might be best giving TM another go.

There's still time for her to throw her hat into the ring.

She has reminded the nation of her achievements (Grenfell, refugee children, etc)... well, you don't know what you've got 'til it's gone.

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Postby PDQ Mobile » 25 May 2019, 9:03am

thirdcrank wrote:Having read the BBC's current list of possible candidates, I'm drawn to the conclusion that they might be best giving TM another go.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48395611

:D

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Re: Tory leader - place your bets

Postby reohn2 » 25 May 2019, 9:08am

PDQ Mobile wrote:
thirdcrank wrote:Having read the BBC's current list of possible candidates, I'm drawn to the conclusion that they might be best giving TM another go.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48395611

:D

Quite!
I looked at the list and shuddered :?
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Re: Tory leader - place your bets

Postby mercalia » 25 May 2019, 10:12am

thirdcrank wrote:Having read the BBC's current list of possible candidates, I'm drawn to the conclusion that they might be best giving TM another go.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48395611


The Guardian almost agrees

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... GTUK_email

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Re: Tory leader - place your bets

Postby Audax67 » 25 May 2019, 10:17am

Looking at that lot, I'm glad I'm over here and they're over there.
Have we got time for another cuppa?

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Postby reohn2 » 25 May 2019, 10:18am

Audax67 wrote:Looking at that lot, I'm glad I'm over here and they're over there.

I wish I was with you! :)
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Re: Tory leader - place your bets

Postby Mike Sales » 25 May 2019, 10:19am

reohn2 wrote:
PDQ Mobile wrote:
thirdcrank wrote:Having read the BBC's current list of possible candidates, I'm drawn to the conclusion that they might be best giving TM another go.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48395611

:D

Quite!
Though I looked at the list and shuddered :?


Would any of them be worse than Piffle Johnson?

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Re: Tory leader - place your bets

Postby pwa » 25 May 2019, 10:30am

The fall of May will please many with Remain sympathies but it will please the No Deal hardliners even more. There is a real possibility that we will be having a PM determined to take us over that edge, and I wonder if some who take a softer line will end up wishing they had backed May when they had the chance.

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Re: Tory leader - place your bets

Postby Mick F » 25 May 2019, 10:45am

Ben@Forest wrote:Those that had been in Soviet POW camps were disgruntled about the length of time they were held, though l believe, proportionately, we held German POW longer, probably in better conditions though.
Many of the German POWs remained here after the war. Very good friend of ours is the son of one.

My uncle was a POW in Germany captured in Greece, and I'd like to bet that none of them stayed in Germany after the war.
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Re: Tory leader - place your bets

Postby PH » 25 May 2019, 10:50am

pwa wrote:The fall of May will please many with Remain sympathies but it will please the No Deal hardliners even more. There is a real possibility that we will be having a PM determined to take us over that edge, and I wonder if some who take a softer line will end up wishing they had backed May when they had the chance.

Yes, even within the party it's a deeply undemocratic process, with the membership only given a choice of two candidates*. It's entirely possible that they'll both come from the same wing of the party and the membership will effectively have no choice.

* If they're lucky, it's often decided behind closed doors before it goes to the membership.

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Re: Tory leader - place your bets

Postby reohn2 » 25 May 2019, 10:54am

PH wrote:
pwa wrote:The fall of May will please many with Remain sympathies but it will please the No Deal hardliners even more. There is a real possibility that we will be having a PM determined to take us over that edge, and I wonder if some who take a softer line will end up wishing they had backed May when they had the chance.

Yes, even within the party it's a deeply undemocratic process, with the membership only given a choice of two candidates*. It's entirely possible that they'll both come from the same wing of the party and the membership will effectively have no choice.

* If they're lucky, it's often decided behind closed doors before it goes to the membership.

With the country having even less choice who the next PM will be!
And all the while those who voted for brexit keep complaining about the EU's lack of democracy :roll:
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