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Re: Sanctions?

Postby reohn2 » 31 May 2019, 10:01am

Tangled Metal wrote:
reohn2 wrote:
Tangled Metal wrote:.........This is TM
Trying to out drivel Cugel, with less style but some degree of success with the drivel bit.

And doing a pretty good job of it if you don't mind me saying so :)

Why thank you. I do try my best! :D

I know you do! :wink:
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Re: Sanctions?

Postby Mike Sales » 31 May 2019, 10:09am

reohn2 wrote:
Tangled Metal wrote:
reohn2 wrote:And doing a pretty good job of it if you don't mind me saying so :)

Why thank you. I do try my best! :D

I know you do! :wink:


I enjoy the posts of our own Will Self. They are at least original, not a confused regurgitation of clichés.

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Re: Sanctions?

Postby reohn2 » 31 May 2019, 10:11am

Mike Sales wrote:
reohn2 wrote:
Tangled Metal wrote:Why thank you. I do try my best! :D

I know you do! :wink:


I enjoy the posts of our own Will Self. They are at least original, not a confused regurgitation of clichés.

I'll tell him next time I see him :)
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Re: Sanctions?

Postby gaz » 31 May 2019, 10:12am

Mick F wrote:It so happens, that the mods are in conversation about recruiting another one or two.

I see that since making my post above Jill has finally resigned/been removed from the moderation team :wink: .

Edit: A number of spambusters have now received a promotion.
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Re: Sanctions?

Postby Cugel » 31 May 2019, 10:15am

Oldjohnw wrote:Here's a plan.

Have a committee to appoint the moderators.

Then have a committee to appoint the committee.

Soon we will all be committee members. Or moderators. Which we should be anyway.


Already we are falling into the trap! Soon the only threads will be about moderation and the moderation of moderation. There will need to be a special class of high moderators who moderate posts critical of the ordinary moderators.

Then there's the discussion about whether moderation should be an autocratic of a democratic institution.....

Cugel, still preferring the mysterious moderator-gods mode.

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Re: Sanctions?

Postby Cugel » 31 May 2019, 10:18am

Tangled Metal wrote:Moderation by the members hasn't happened yet. And I'm possibly as bad as anyone else.

Everything in moderation. Either a police state or good advice on how to escape obesity.

With the ease of creating new emails and masking your ip address a ban might only be a small inconvenience. Pointless in the long term. On another forum or more there's serial new identity types. Appear, post a load of provocative stuff, get onto arguments or start them and stand back. Then you get a ban and a new username to restart, slowly at first then gradually you become more obvious and get called out as the same person. Never done that myself but seen it. You eventually learn to spot an individual's online language and posting style. That's harder to keep hidden than your identity.

This is TM
Trying to out drivel Cugel, with less style but some degree of success with the drivel bit.


It takes years of practice to drivel drivel that's not just drivel! I should know.

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Re: Sanctions?

Postby Cyril Haearn » 31 May 2019, 10:22am

Power without responsibility or vice-versa, like the House of Lords? Just read of a Noble Lord who claimed GBP 50 000 for keeping his gob shut :wink:
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Re: Sanctions?

Postby Tangled Metal » 31 May 2019, 10:23am

Cugel wrote:
Tangled Metal wrote:Moderation by the members hasn't happened yet. And I'm possibly as bad as anyone else.

Everything in moderation. Either a police state or good advice on how to escape obesity.

With the ease of creating new emails and masking your ip address a ban might only be a small inconvenience. Pointless in the long term. On another forum or more there's serial new identity types. Appear, post a load of provocative stuff, get onto arguments or start them and stand back. Then you get a ban and a new username to restart, slowly at first then gradually you become more obvious and get called out as the same person. Never done that myself but seen it. You eventually learn to spot an individual's online language and posting style. That's harder to keep hidden than your identity.

This is TM
Trying to out drivel Cugel, with less style but some degree of success with the drivel bit.


It takes years of practice to drivel drivel that's not just drivel! I should know.

Cugel

I still haven't worked out if that's a compliment or not.

I think that's your particular online talent. After reading what you post I often still don't know what you're actually saying. That's part of the golden age of online drivel and a standard I can only admire.

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Re: Sanctions?

Postby Tangled Metal » 31 May 2019, 10:25am

Cyril Haearn wrote:Power without responsibility or vice-versa, like the House of Lords? Just read of a Noble Lord who claimed GBP 50 000 for keeping his gob shut :wink:

Can we pay some MPs to do the same? Can the UK government coffers afford the expense? The HoC would be a silent place most days if so.

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Re: Sanctions?

Postby Cyril Haearn » 31 May 2019, 10:26am

Unfortunately not, they 'earn' rather more than that :?
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Re: Sanctions?

Postby reohn2 » 31 May 2019, 10:30am

Tangled Metal wrote:
Cugel wrote:
Tangled Metal wrote:Moderation by the members hasn't happened yet. And I'm possibly as bad as anyone else.

Everything in moderation. Either a police state or good advice on how to escape obesity.

With the ease of creating new emails and masking your ip address a ban might only be a small inconvenience. Pointless in the long term. On another forum or more there's serial new identity types. Appear, post a load of provocative stuff, get onto arguments or start them and stand back. Then you get a ban and a new username to restart, slowly at first then gradually you become more obvious and get called out as the same person. Never done that myself but seen it. You eventually learn to spot an individual's online language and posting style. That's harder to keep hidden than your identity.

This is TM
Trying to out drivel Cugel, with less style but some degree of success with the drivel bit.


It takes years of practice to drivel drivel that's not just drivel! I should know.

Cugel

I still haven't worked out if that's a compliment or not.

In that case you've been outdrivelled.

I think that's your particular online talent. After reading what you post I often still don't know what you're actually saying. That's part of the golden age of online drivel and a standard I can only admire.

Yes,completely outdrivelled by a master driveler
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Re: Sanctions?

Postby merseymouth » 31 May 2019, 1:12pm

Hi all, Well my rant over Moderation has provoked some very immoderate responses!
But I still have not learnt how I encouraged the exile in the first place?
As folk have hinted, so I would go, seat in the Lords and £50'000 for keeping my cake hole shut, yes please!
Quite how the mods would react were I to copy Vince Cable's rude policy statement - "Billhooks", I think that was the word?
Not taking the chance though.
Might have to start talking like the late, great Stanley Unwin. IGICB Without my coat MM

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Re: Sanctions?

Postby Cugel » 31 May 2019, 2:00pm

Tangled Metal wrote:
Cugel wrote:
Tangled Metal wrote:Moderation by the members hasn't happened yet. And I'm possibly as bad as anyone else.

Everything in moderation. Either a police state or good advice on how to escape obesity.

With the ease of creating new emails and masking your ip address a ban might only be a small inconvenience. Pointless in the long term. On another forum or more there's serial new identity types. Appear, post a load of provocative stuff, get onto arguments or start them and stand back. Then you get a ban and a new username to restart, slowly at first then gradually you become more obvious and get called out as the same person. Never done that myself but seen it. You eventually learn to spot an individual's online language and posting style. That's harder to keep hidden than your identity.

This is TM
Trying to out drivel Cugel, with less style but some degree of success with the drivel bit.


It takes years of practice to drivel drivel that's not just drivel! I should know.

Cugel

I still haven't worked out if that's a compliment or not.

I think that's your particular online talent. After reading what you post I often still don't know what you're actually saying. That's part of the golden age of online drivel and a standard I can only admire.


It gladdens myheart that you get the point! The postings hereabouts (and probably in similar cyberspace hangouts) are of various kinds and serve all sorts of poster-intents. I like to try most of them, from angry expostulation about a perceived injustice to exploring the undoubted ambiguities of most aspects of being a human. In between them all are the opportunities to tease and mock both oneself and the other pontificators. It's just a more entertaining mode of introspection, see?

The latter is my favourite, though but. Drivelling on about something in a manner inviting or even suggesting alternative views often elicits the alternative views - all sorts, of various hues and shapes. These may be contained in a posting-bucket composed largely of gravel and mud but often containing also hidden golden nuggets of enlightenment; or small jewels of sense; perhaps even a whole new-outlook necklace!

As you may have noticed, I feel wary of the notions of absolute truth, certainty and all the other attitudes that tend to ossify brains. I put this down to my schooling, which was full of rules of a very specific and adamantine nature but seemingly no point or utility. That can affect a sensitive lad like me. :-)

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Re: Sanctions?

Postby Cugel » 31 May 2019, 2:07pm

Cyril Haearn wrote:Power without responsibility or vice-versa, like the House of Lords? Just read of a Noble Lord who claimed GBP 50 000 for keeping his gob shut :wink:


Here's a book for 'ee, concerning the nuances of authority as manifest in various situations and roles. It's very insightful about a subject-matter that's not often discussed.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Authority-Rich ... oks&sr=1-1

All them Lords (and MPs too) should be forced to read and memorise it. Of course, it would make no difference as they're mostly immune to the notion "responsibility". Do you recall the notion of noblesse oblige? I've heard of it but can't remember ever seeing it practiced.

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Re: Sanctions?

Postby Cugel » 31 May 2019, 2:12pm

merseymouth wrote:As folk have hinted, so I would go, seat in the Lords and £50'000 for keeping my cake hole shut, yes please!


It seems most unlikely that even 2 x £50,000 would enable you to keep your cake consuming orifice from emitting interesting albeit obtuse sentences! I believe you to be possesed of a talking divvil. I have one too and it never obeys when I tell it to shut up. Mind, I haven't offered it £50,000 as I haven't got it.

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